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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

300.0. "Usage question: "ally" vs. "ly"" by CLT::SIMONS (Al Simons 381-2187) Fri Jan 09 1987 11:07

    Have a serious question for once...
    
    When changing an adjective to an adverb, the rule is usually to
    add the letters "ly". However, occasionally, one must add "ally".
    (Note that "occasionally" is not such a case, since the adjective
    is "occasional".)
    
    The question is: "What is the rule for when to use "ally" instead
    of "ly"?
    
    My initial looking at it points to adjectives ending in "ic", such
    as "basic". The adverb form is "basically". Some other words are
    	drastic
    	enthusiastic
    
    Is this the only case, and if so can a reason be found?
    
    -Al
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300.1VMSDEV::SZETOGladly The Cross-Eyed BearFri Jan 16 1987 21:184
    I don't know.  But 'publicly' does not end in 'ally.'
    
  --Simon
    
300.2"I'll print it exactly", he wrote sicly.BAEDEV::RECKARDTue Feb 03 1987 06:420
300.3Ally, the nounDELNI::CANTORDave C.Sun Aug 30 1987 05:1610
      I don't know about the suffix '-ally,' but I do know about
      the word 'ally.'   My high school history (not English, history)
      teacher said that some people pronounce it with the accent
      on the first syllable and some with the accent on the second,
      but she told us how to pronounce it correctly:
      
      If someone tells you that it should be pronounced al'ly, just
      remember that it is a lie.
      
      Dave C.
300.4Maybe so, maybe not!DSSDEV::STONERoyMon Aug 31 1987 09:4416
    Re: .3   -< Ally, the noun >-
    
    My schooling, which appears to be confirmed by my dictionary, is
    that there are two "correct" pronunciations, each of which may be
    used for either of two contexts in which the word can be used. 
    However, the _preferred_ pronunciation shifts from one to the other
    depending on the context.  
    
    When used as a noun to indicate a close associate the emphasis is
    on the first syllable:  al'ly.  When used as a verb to indicate
    the uniting into a formal relationship, the emphasis may shift to
    the latter syllable: al-ly'.
    
    I'm sure Dave's history teacher meant well, but I get uncomfortable
    when anyone tries to tell me that there is _only_ one correct way
    to do something.  Presumed authority is not infallible.