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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

261.0. "Any cryptographers out there?" by BAEDEV::RECKARD () Tue Oct 21 1986 13:38

    Does anyone out there know of a cryptographer-type-person who can
    tell me how my own cryptographing scheme (term?) compares to others
    in terms of simplicity, break-ability, etc.?
    
    (I don't intend to add a JOYOFCRYPT note or conference.  I'm just
    looking for a lead.)
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261.1this might work...LYMPH::LAMBERTNote(d) AuthorTue Oct 21 1986 15:557
        You might check out BULOVA::VMS_ENCRYPTION.  (Press KP7 or SELECT
        to add it to your notebook.)  I've never looked at the conference,
        but it's there, according to the list. 

	Also, I believe the term you want is "encryption algorythm".

        - Sam
261.2No, no. I mean spy stuff.BAEDEV::RECKARDTue Oct 21 1986 16:119
    I guess I used the wrong phrase(s) here in the land of computers.
    
    I'm referring to the coded messages one spy-type-person would send
    to another.  You know, coding "Hello" as 8-5-12-12-15".
    Someone working for Army intelligence (I know, I know, an oxymoron)
    would be the kind of person I'd want to talk to.
    
    Thanks anyway.
    
261.3Try CLT::MATHTLE::FAIMANNeil FaimanTue Oct 21 1986 16:375
    You might try asking in the mathematics conference (CLT::MATH).
    
    	-Neil
    
    (Press KP7 or SELECT...)
261.4Usenet, tooCAD::LEVITINSam LevitinWed Oct 22 1986 10:1111
RE: 261.1  I believe BULOVA::VMS_ENCRYPTION discusses the
VAX/VMS Encryption layered product, and not cryptosystems in
general. 

If CLT::MATH won't work (there are some sharp people who
participate there), try sending mail to the Usenet discussion
group net.crypt or sci.crypt, by mailing to RHEA::DECWRL::"net.crypt".
There's often more heat than light there, but you'll generate
discussion. 

Sam
261.5BEING::POSTPISCHILAlways mount a scratch monkey.Wed Oct 22 1986 10:3119
    Re .4:
    
    If anybody sends mail to net.crypt or sci.crypt, they should be sure to
    subscribe to the group so they see the answers to their mailing.  To do
    this, send mail to ROLL::USENET.  Be certain to have the word
    "subscription" in the subject line, because this causes an automatic
    procedure to grab your subscription request and process it.  The
    message should contain these lines: 
    
    	$USELIST ADD BAEDEV::RECKARD net.crypt
    	$USELIST ADD BAEDEV::RECKARD sci.crypt
    
    You can also put in a line to have a list of the available groups
    sent to you:
    
    	$USELIST LIST
    
    
    				-- edp
261.6Ask a vetUCOUNT::LYNCHBill LynchWed Oct 22 1986 11:224
    If you want to find someone who worked with codes in the armed
    forces, you might try the UCOUNT::VETERANS conference.
    
    -- Bill
261.7PointersINK::KALLISSupport Hallowe'enFri Oct 24 1986 12:2117
    Before you do any of this, you might want to check some sources.
    
    1) _The_ book, either through your library, or possibly the
    much-shorter paperback version of _The Codebreakers_ by David Kahn.
    It will give _all_ the fundamentals.
    
    2) A journal available at Digital's corporate library, _Cryptologia_.
     This is a quarterly journal on the subject of codes/ciphers.
    
    3) Books published by Agaen Park Press.   I don't have their address
    handy, but they're probably listed in _Books In Print_.  Strictly
    cryptology house.  They have reprints of Friedman's stuff, plus
    some interesting new goodies, including simulations of some WW II
    mechanical cryptosystems.  LOTS of good stuff there!
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
261.8orange smoke alertTKOV52::DIAMONDTue Feb 20 1990 05:342
    You need the rank of cheater, after finding all the treasures,
    before you can encrypt yourself.