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239.1 | maybe from biplane crashes | SKYLRK::POLLAK | Warp eight Mr. Sulu... | Fri Sep 12 1986 15:20 | 8 |
| I understood it to come from the early days of flying. The unfortunate
pilot would crash in a farmer's field or orchard. If he survived
he paid the farmer for the damages and if not his estate did.
If this is the case then the original meaning would have been one
of misfortune (out money AND a plane), but came to mean the more
severe side later on when planes got bigger and crashs harder to
walk away from (which may be where "walked away from it" came??)
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239.2 | folk etimology | PSTJTT::TABER | Cuidado -- es llamas! | Mon Sep 15 1986 10:42 | 8 |
| This came up a long time ago in DESPERADO. At the time there were two
popular favorites for most likely derivation. The term seems to have
surfaced during the first world war, the two derivations were (a) that
the soldier's GI insurance would pay off the mortgage on the farm he
left behind, and (b) the term was originally "bought a farm" meaning he
bought a little plot of land where he is now pushing up daisys.
>>>==>PStJTT
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239.3 | "Coffin, save me!" | SWSNOD::RPGDOC | Dennis the Menace | Mon Sep 15 1986 12:00 | 4 |
| I think it also existed in sailors' folklore, in that many an old
salt intended to retire after one more voyage and settle down on
a farm. However, few of them were ever able to save enough money,
and upon passing away at sea were said to have "bought the farm".
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239.4 | Also RAFspeak | NOGOV::GOODENOUGH | Jeff Goodenough, IPG Reading-UK | Tue Sep 16 1986 10:43 | 6 |
| There was a similar RAF expression during WW II "Old Charlie's bought
it", meaning Charlie had pranged his plane and been killed. I suppose
it was derived from the same source, though I never heard the full
form in the rash of war movies made in the fifties.
Jeff.
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239.5 | | DRAGON::MCVAY | Pete McVay, VRO (Telecomm) | Tue Sep 16 1986 16:17 | 11 |
| John Ciardi (who bought the farm last year) was an entymologist-
poet who enjoyed finding the origins of words and phrases.
He had a slightly different version than the biplane note:
he claimed that in barnstorming days, pilots would pay farmers
for landing rights in the field during county fairs. If the
pilot crashed, he had "bought the farm"--that is, it became
his grave.
I heard a similar version to the "raising/pushing up daisies"
mentioned in an earlier reply--I thought that was the origin
of the phrase until Ciardi gave his version...
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239.6 | Entymology? A buzz-word? | FUTURE::UPPER | | Tue Sep 30 1986 11:26 | 13 |
| Re: .5
Words bug him, huh?
Or does he study buggy words??
(Sorry, just had to take a swat at that one).
Incidentally, the version ***I*** heard umpteen years ago at flight school
(so it's probably biased toward aviation) was that a farmer, annoyed at
frequent runway overruns into his crops, put up several signs along the
runway. The last one, considerably beyond the runway, was 'You bought
the farm!'
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239.7 | Whet! No farm? | IOSG::DEMORGAN | | Mon May 18 1987 10:48 | 1 |
| Re .3: I thought retired sailors purchased inns.
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