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194.1 | Two, or so | GRDIAN::BROOMHEAD | Ann A. Broomhead | Fri May 30 1986 14:30 | 6 |
| 1. It's been used to refer to me.
2. I do expect another syllable or two.
3. How do you feel about Chairthing? (Used by the head of a
science fiction convention.)
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194.2 | | DSSDEV::TABER | It mattered once | Fri May 30 1986 14:32 | 9 |
| Please, oh PLEASE, not again!!!
Yes, "chair" is proper useage. Has been for hundreds of years. It's
most often seen in academic circles or on arts committees. It's even
in the stinking Random House Dictionary.
Let's not start another potboiling session....
>>>==>PStJTT
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194.3 | | BEING::POSTPISCHIL | Always mount a scratch monkey. | Fri May 30 1986 15:46 | 8 |
| Re .0:
> Has anyone in this conference seen this usage before?
Indeed, you have seen the usage before, in 147.89.
-- edp
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194.4 | Sorry I brought it up! | APTECH::RSTONE | | Fri May 30 1986 17:39 | 8 |
| Re: .2
My apologies! It is likewise defined in two of my dictionaries
(I haven't checked any others). It was just that I have never
seen it used that way in such a formal context.
As far as I'm concerned....case closed!
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194.5 | From the desk of Earl Wajenberg | PROSE::WAJENBERG | | Fri Jun 27 1986 12:37 | 3 |
| Compare using "chair" for the chaircreature with using "bench" for
the judge, or "throne" for the monarch. Even if the usage were new,
it would be in a long tradition of animated lieutenant furniture.
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194.6 | The Chair | IOSG::DEMORGAN | | Tue May 12 1987 12:40 | 4 |
| I don't know if this casts any light on the subject, but in the
UK we refer to such things as "the Chair of Computer Science" etc.
Here "chair" means the position, not the person. Is the same convention
used in the US?
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194.7 | I'm a bit chary about this one. | MLNIT5::FINANCE | | Tue May 12 1987 13:23 | 11 |
| MLNOIS::HARBIG
In Italy a University Professor is said to hold
a "Cattedra" which is an old word for a throne
type chair.
That's where the English word Cathedral comes
from refering to the Bishop's chair or seat.
It probably comes from the time when individual
chairs were rarities and the top man sat in one
while the dogsbodies made do with benches.
Max
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194.8 | thanks | ARMORY::CHARBONND | | Tue May 12 1987 16:52 | 3 |
| That explains the phrase 'ex cathedra' , meaning a person
is speaking his own opinion, rather than as (pope,bishop
chairman,president etc.)
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194.9 | | MYCRFT::PARODI | John H. Parodi | Wed May 13 1987 10:19 | 7 |
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Re: .8
Nope -- 'ex cathedra' means just the opposite. It means that the speaker
is using the authority of the office, not personal opinion.
JP
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194.10 | | MLNIT5::FINANCE | | Wed May 13 1987 12:44 | 5 |
| MLNOIS::HARBIG
Right again. 'ex ' in this case means 'from' an not out of
as in 'ex libris' = from the library of.
Max
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194.11 | ex mente | IPG::GOODENOUGH | Jeff Goodenough, IPG Reading-UK | Thu May 14 1987 08:48 | 4 |
| Presumably, therefore, 'ex cathedra' means the same as 'ex officio',
but more imposing?
Jeff.
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194.12 | not ex catheter? | DEBIT::RANDALL | Bonnie Randall Schutzman | Fri May 15 1987 17:11 | 4 |
| Yes, even more imposing because "cathedra" carries the connotations
of divine inspiration and not mere authority.
--bonnie
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194.13 | | SPMFG1::CHARBONND | | Mon May 18 1987 07:35 | 1 |
| re .9 Many thanks. And I still hate Latin :-)
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194.14 | populated furniture | TKOV52::DIAMOND | | Fri Feb 16 1990 10:53 | 11 |
| .5 seems like it should have sprouted a new topic.
If the chaircreature leads a committee, the benchperson is a judge,
and the throneperson is a monarch, then the rest of the committee
members might be sofapeople.
The stoolpigeon's rank seems to match as well.
The owner of a brothel could be the bedperson.
What else?
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194.15 | | COOKIE::DEVINE | Bob Devine, CXN | Fri Feb 16 1990 20:11 | 3 |
| re: .14
Is this an ex cathedra decision?
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