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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

183.0. "Strange Names" by MARVIN::HARPER () Fri May 09 1986 09:58

    I was just looking somebody up in the DEC UK phone book, and I found:
    
    	KNYHYNYCKYJ, Mark
    
    Anyone got any idea how to pronounce it or where it comes from?
    I haven't quite got the nerve to ring him up and ask him how to
    pronounce his name -- if anyone else wants to it's DTN 845-3329.
    
    Maybe he did a SET USERNAME/GENERATE?
    
    	John
    
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183.1WAGFURILO::BLINNDr. Tom @MROFri May 09 1986 20:095
        Probably Welsh.  And it's probably pronounced a lot like the
        sound you make when you clear your throat.  I wonder, does
        he have an account on one of the systems?  Does he NOTE?
        
        Tom
183.2SlavCHEV02::NESMITHSee Spot run. Run Spot, run.Fri May 09 1986 22:194
    I'll bet it's Slavic and pronounced something close to "Ninick".
    So who's gonna ask him?
    
    Susan
183.3MARVIN::HARPERSat May 10 1986 18:169
    It certainly isn't Welsh, or anything else Celtic (at least not
    with any kind of conventional spelling).  I suppose it could be
    Slavic.  Maybe it's a pre-Indo-European language... although I thought
    the Romans and then the Vandals did for all of them.
    
    I still haven't plucked up the courage.
    
    	John
    
183.4I've sent mail offFURILO::BLINNDr. Tom @MROSun May 11 1986 17:017
        Hmmm.. he isn't listed in the U.S. phonebook, but ELF knows
        about him, and says he's at LZO, which translates to Leeds,
        England.  I've sent him mail (on the assumption that DECmail
        will figure out how to route it, but who can say?).  We'll
        see (a) whether it gets through and (b) whether I get a reply.
        
        Tom
183.5Curioser and curioserFURILO::BLINNDr. Tom @MROMon May 12 1986 18:5543
        Now, this is fascinating!  MTS delivered it to LZO, where Mark
        is reported by ELF to work, but he apparently doesn't have
        an electronic mail account (or, at least, the router doesn't
        know about it).  We'll see if anything more comes of it.
        
        Tom

                
From:	RUGGED::MRGATE!POSTMASTER_AT_NORA_AT_RDGMTS_at_FLOTSM 12-MAY-1986 14:06
To:	FURILO::BLINN
Subj:	Curiosity


 The attached message could not be delivered to the
 recipient because the name was misspelled.  However,
 the message was delivered to the GENERAL DELIVERY
 printer @LZO from where it will be delivered by
 hand - the misspelled name(s) follow(s):
  
Failed to deliver to:  MARK KNYHYNYCKYJ  - No such name                         
  
 The original message follows:
 ===================================================
  
  
Message-id: 19860511200344/187551@RUGGED
Posted-date: 11-May-1986 @ 20:03:44
To:	MARK KNYHYNYCKYJ
From:	BLINN@FURILO@MRGATE AT RUGGED AT FLOTSM at RDGMTS
Subject: Curiosity


Mark,

I happened to stumble across your last name, and am very curious both as
to how you pronounce it, and what nationality it comes from.  Naturally,
you have no obligation whatever to answer this question, but I'd love
to know!

Regards,

Tom
Curious in the U.S.A.
183.6My guessVOGON::GOODENOUGHJeff Goodenough, IPG Reading-UKTue May 13 1986 09:048
    My guess is Nihinski, and probably Yugoslav or Polish - definitely
    Slav, anyway.
    
    Most Welsh names look pretty much like English, in fact most Welsh
    names are Jones :-).  I'm pretty sure the real Celtic names are
    first names only, since patronymics were used.
    
    Jeff.
183.7Not a real wordKLOV04::WARNERSlartibartfastThu May 15 1986 11:4218
< Note 183.6 by VOGON::GOODENOUGH "Jeff Goodenough, IPG Reading-UK" >
                                 -< My guess >-

    My guess is Nihinski, and probably Yugoslav or Polish - definitely
    Slav, anyway.
    
    Most Welsh names look pretty much like English, in fact most Welsh
    names are Jones :-).  I'm pretty sure the real Celtic names are
    first names only, since patronymics were used.
    
    Jeff.


    It is not Celtic, the Irish alphabet does not contain the majority
    of the letters in it. For my money its Hungarian and sounds like
    yer man who leped about in yer ballet.

	Seamus O'Guinless.
183.8Do me a favour!VOGON::GOODENOUGHJeff Goodenough, IPG Reading-UKFri May 16 1986 05:165
    Re: .7:  I was not for one moment suggesting the name in question
    was Welsh or any form of Celtic.  That bit was in response to an
    earlier response that suggested it might be.
    
    Jeff.
183.9BISTRO::TIMMERRien Timmer, Valbonne.Thu Jun 12 1986 15:598
    Still no reply from this mysterious person?
    
    I have queried Finnish, Polish and Yugoslav people in my office
    and all of them swear it cannot possibly be a name from their
    language. So who's going to phone him? Jeff, you're closest...
    
    Rien.
    
183.10No I'm not4GL::GOODENOUGHThu Jun 12 1986 17:421
    Re: .9  You're about 2,500 miles closer at the moment, Rien.
183.11Oldies but goodiesWELSWS::MANNIONBonnets so redMon Nov 16 1987 08:439
    SOME TIME LATER...
    
    I am reliably informed by guys from the Leeds office that it's
    pronounced "Nine-etsky", but they didn't know where it came from.
    Attempts to send mail failed because he's a Field Service engineer,
    apparently, and so not trusted with his own account. Something like
    that anyway.
    
    Phillip