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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

161.0. ""Principle Engineer"? <bleeaah>" by VIKING::TARBET (Margaret Mairhi) Fri Mar 21 1986 15:38

    ( hope this isn't a dupe )
    
    Who would we have to kill to get people to quit using "principle"
    for "principal"?
    
    I shall probably scream if I see "Principle Engineer" once more
    <gnash gnash>
    
    ...unless, of course, Hudson is doing a Philosophy Engine.
    
    					=maggie
    
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161.1ySIERRA::OSMANand silos to fill before I feep, and silos to fill before I feepFri Mar 21 1986 16:443
    Anyone that can't spell shouldn't be promoted to one anyway !
    
    /Eric
161.2non-words forever!DELNI::GOLDSTEINFred @226-7388Thu Mar 27 1986 16:385
    Wait a second.  If it weren't for all the Principle Engineers,
    who else would use Kernal mode?
    
    Seriously, the misspellings that float around notesfiles -- er,
    I mean Conferences -- can be almost excruciating!
161.3APTECH::RSTONEFri Mar 28 1986 08:425
    I thought Principle Engineers were those who concentrated on the
    principle aspects of their projects. :-) 
    
    Roy
    
161.4These *is* such a thing - he told me!VOGON::GOODENOUGHJeff Goodenough, IPG Reading-UKFri Mar 28 1986 09:564
    I had a mail from someone looking for a posting to Reading who said
    he was a Principle Software Engineer.
    
    Jeff.
161.5I are one!APTECH::RSTONEFri Mar 28 1986 10:333
    I must be one!  I have company-provided business cards which attest
    to the fact!  (Or should I blame the under-paid secretary who placed
    the order for them?)
161.7"My pal the principal."DELNI::CANTORDave CantorFri Mar 28 1986 17:2315
      The business cards and the job requisitions are most likely
      wrong.
      
      If the word is an adjective, it is usually followed by a 
      concrete noun, and is correctly spelled 'principal;' _e.g._, 
      the principal engineer, the principal valve.  If the word is
      itself a noun, it is usually referring to an abstract idea,
      and is spelled 'principle;'  _e.g._, the principle of covariance.

      The principal of a school is an exception.  You can think of the
      person holding that title as the principal educator. 
      
      My business cards say "Principal Software Engineer."
      
      Dave C.      
161.8Principled EngineerAMOS::GARDNERFri Mar 28 1986 17:527
    This was called to my attention several years ago by the woman who
    is now my wife.  I double checked, and every DEC business card I've
    seen then or since says Principle Engineer (sic).  At the time,
    I explained to her that, since I occupy a position of trust, I'm
    a Principled Engineer, and the printer had dropped the "d".  I
    actually got this out both without pausing and with a straight
    face.
161.9The ExplanationNETMAN::CALLAHANTue Apr 01 1986 16:2411
    
    Haven't you heard?  The field of Artificial Intelligence has been
    extended to include Artificial Ethics, and these Principle Software
    Engineers are the ones who write the code.
    
    I wish them luck in their search for human models.  (Wasn't it Diogenes
    that had trouble finding one that was just honest?)
    
    Joe
    
    
161.10TLE::WINALSKIPaul S. WinalskiSat Apr 05 1986 17:3613
RE: .8

DEC business cards say on them what the employee who ordered them wants them
to say.  My supervisor's cards list his title as 'Supervising Engineer' instead
of the correct title of 'Engineering Supervisor.'  Mine says 'Principal
Engineer,' which is my correct job title, as listed on my letter of promotion
and all of my performance reviews.  'Principle Engineer' appears on business
cards because the person who ordered the cards was either lazy or illiterate.

Being functionally illiterate seems to be one of the requirements to be
graduated from MIT.

--PSW
161.11VIKING::FLEISCHERBob FleischerMon Apr 07 1986 14:388
re Note 161.10 by TLE::WINALSKI:

> Being functionally illiterate seems to be one of the requirements to be
> graduated from MIT.

As Curly (of the Three Stooges) used to say, "I resemble that"!

Bob
161.12Principal principle43353::GOODENOUGHJeff Goodenough, IPG Reading-UKTue Apr 08 1986 04:398
    Re: .7
    > The business cards ... are most likely wrong
    
    Most likely??  I didn't think there was any need for *debate* on
    this matter!  We all *know* the difference (don't we?).
    
    Jeff.
    (Principal Software Engineer)
161.13I left out the critical punctuation.DEREP::CANTORDave CantorTue Apr 08 1986 13:1113
      Re .12 
      
    >  Re: .7
    >> The business cards ... are most likely wrong
    >  
    >Most likely??  [....]

      I wanted to leave open the extremely small possibility that
      that the cards and the job requisition described a person
      who designs principles.  I should have put a smiley face mark
      in there.

      Dave C.
161.14Only took six yearsGAVEL::SATOWMon Nov 23 1992 09:5025
re: .9 (submitted April Fools' Day, 1986)

How prophetic!  AI hasn't advanced as fast as predicted, so instead of 
"Artificial" Ethics, we are soon to have an Ethics VP, and thus an 
organization for Principle Engineers.


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    Haven't you heard?  The field of Artificial Intelligence has been
    extended to include Artificial Ethics, and these Principle Software
    Engineers are the ones who write the code.
    
    I wish them luck in their search for human models.  (Wasn't it Diogenes
    that had trouble finding one that was just honest?)
    
    Joe
    
    
161.15JIT081::DIAMONDIt&#039;s been a lovely recession.Mon Nov 23 1992 18:375
    >we are soon to have an Ethics VP,
    
    Most likely to have an even shorter lifetime than other VPs.  Sigh.
    
    -- Norman Diamond