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149.1 | I won't say anthing. | PIPER::REILLY | | Fri Feb 28 1986 20:12 | 4 |
| I have heard that the OPS5 Release document includes a chapter titled
"Undocumented Features."
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149.2 | Moronic Ox | VOGON::GOODENOUGH | Jeff Goodenough, IPG Reading-UK | Mon Mar 03 1986 08:24 | 10 |
| Re: .0 I believe this is/was a favourite device used by IBM in
their manuals to maintain the left-right 'pageness', or to reserve
space for inserts.
Some other company copied them in a manual I saw, but got it slightly
wrong:
THIS PAGE UNINTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK
Jeff.
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149.3 | GLAUBE MIR... | CANYON::MOELLER | | Wed Mar 12 1986 13:05 | 4 |
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'Undocumented Features' is a euphemism for BUGS.
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149.4 | Wrong! | EVER11::EKLOF | There's no government like anarchy! | Thu Mar 13 1986 12:36 | 9 |
| > 'Undocumented Features' is a euphemism for BUGS.
It is nothing of the sort. If one has a utility that works properly
in every documented case, then that utility has no bugs. If it additionally
does something useful when given input other than from the documented range
of acceptable input, then that function is an undocumented feature.
Mark
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149.5 | tech writers don't get no respect | DELNI::GOLDSTEIN | Fred @226-7388 | Thu Mar 13 1986 17:19 | 10 |
| -.1 is quibbling. In general, if a program behaves exactly as
it's documented to, dumb or not, it's bug-free. If it does something
"better" than but not predictable from the documentation (I don't
mean a proper superset), it's got a bug.
"Undocumented features" may exist if the program is a proper superset
of the documentation, but not if any of the documented function
is modified. That really splits "undocumented feature" into two
categories: "Hidden" features, which are undocumented on purpose,
and "bugs", which are undocumented by accident.
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149.6 | | SERF::POWERS | | Fri Mar 14 1986 09:17 | 9 |
| Guys, lighten up and look at the title of the Topic.
We've got a chapter in a book about things that aren't in the book...
Doesn't that sound oxymoronish to you?
- tom]
PS: but to get into the fray anyway, "undocumented features"
need not be bugs; they might have been put in on purpose, as
"midnight extensions"
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149.7 | dsakjhreu23498 == "delete [000000...]*.*.*" | JOET::JOET | Joe Tomkowitz | Wed Mar 19 1986 10:24 | 5 |
| Wouldn't an undocumented feature be considered a bug since, for
example, upon the invocation of said feature, one would expect
an error message rather than an unexpected action?
-joet
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149.8 | Return of the Oxymoron! | APTECH::RSTONE | | Wed Mar 19 1986 15:44 | 3 |
| Back to the topic....how about:
"A double negative is a no-no!"
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149.9 | Don't wanna work 'to' hard | CANYON::MOELLER | | Fri Mar 28 1986 14:41 | 5 |
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"As I've repeatedly reiterated...."
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149.10 | obstructed view | SIERRA::OSMAN | and silos to fill before I feep, and silos to fill before I feep | Tue Apr 01 1986 17:35 | 7 |
| It's not clear whether I should use note 118 or 149, but here goes:
The radio announcer explained that Celtics Basketball Playoff
tickets are still available, but the only seats left are ones
with an "obstructed view".
/Eric
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149.11 | $$ | EUCLID::MCKINLEY | | Thu May 08 1986 11:05 | 1 |
| Free Kittens
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149.12 | ?? | VOGON::GOODENOUGH | Jeff Goodenough, IPG Reading-UK | Fri May 09 1986 06:25 | 2 |
| Re .11 -- what's oxymoronic about that? Or am I missing something?
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149.13 | Yes | FURILO::BLINN | Dr. Tom @MRO | Fri May 09 1986 20:03 | 4 |
| Re: .12 -- you're missing something. The implication is that
"Free Kittens" is the usual state of affairs (vis � vis kittens).
Tom
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149.14 | Free? Not quite... | COGITO::MCKINLEY | | Sat May 10 1986 14:23 | 7 |
| RE:-.2
Also note that if you've ever received a "free" kitten, you will, in the
course of a few weeks, have spent a small fortune on the little ball of fur.
This reasoning follows for free puppies, fish, monkeys, platypuses (platypi?).
---Phil
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149.15 | buy a shoe ? | SIERRA::OSMAN | and silos to fill before I feep, and silos to fill before I feep | Mon May 12 1986 17:59 | 6 |
| In Brighton, Ma., on Harvard St., there's a shoe store that actually
has the following sign in its window:
Buy One, Get One Free !
/Eric
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149.16 | Any Old Timers Out There | THEBAY::WAKEMANLA | Larry "Super SWS" Wakeman | Fri May 16 1986 17:23 | 3 |
| Re: .15
You need two to make TRAX!!
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149.17 | C'mon, back to Oxymorons!! | NOD::STEVENSON | | Tue Jun 03 1986 09:22 | 7 |
| How about
GUN SAFETY
Hmmmm, it's getting warm in here from the NRA flames.
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149.18 | Doesn't fit the definition. | APTECH::RSTONE | | Tue Jun 03 1986 10:16 | 20 |
| Re: .17
Sorry! I do not consider GUN SAFETY to be an oxymoron.
It may be only a matter of degree, but you should relate that to
other devices which also have a danger factor:
Motorcycle Safety, Auto Safety, Boat Safety, Aircraft Safety,
Power-tool Safety, Swimming-pool Safety, etc. etc.
All can be just as deadly if handled carelessly, or without proper
training, or with ill intent.
Please note, I do not own a firearm and have not fired one since
I was in the Army almost 30 years ago. However, I have friends
who own one or more and who treat them with respect. I also know
people who own some of the other equipment listed above and who
treat them much too carelessly or with little regard to their annoyance
of others. To each his own [recreation]!
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149.19 | Fighting flame with flame | EVER::MCVAY | Pete McVay | Tue Jun 03 1986 11:43 | 11 |
| Oh, I don't know. At least vehicles, power tools, etc., are not
designed with the express purpose of causing damage or death, which
is the ultimate purpose of guns. (I include target-practice weapons
in this category; the original intent of ALL such devices was to
kill and maim, so their evolution into a "safe" device is almost
an apology for their existance.)
It's in the same category of the investigation ordered by the U.S.
Supreme Court about four years ago: the FDA was ordered to investigate
whether the drugs used in lethal-injection executions were "safe
and effective" and "posed no health hazards or unnecessary risks".
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149.20 | "gun safety" oxymoroner than "auto safety" | ROXIE::OSMAN | and silos to fill before I feep, and silos to fill before I feep | Tue Jun 03 1986 12:26 | 10 |
| Re: "gun safety"
"Gun safety" is indeed oxymoroner than "auto safety" or "boat safety"
or any other the objector listed.
This is because guns are DESIGNED for killing. Autos, boats, planes,
motorcycles, are generally not DESIGNED for killing. hence "gun safety"
is more of an oxymoron than the others.
/Eric
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149.21 | Take it to SOAPBOX! | APTECH::RSTONE | | Tue Jun 03 1986 13:28 | 1 |
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149.22 | | BEING::POSTPISCHIL | Always mount a scratch monkey. | Tue Jun 03 1986 13:30 | 6 |
| Re .21:
Okay, where is it?
-- edp
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149.23 | | APTECH::RSTONE | | Tue Jun 03 1986 14:09 | 3 |
| Re: .22
The last one I saw was on Speakers' Corner in Hyde Park (London).
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149.24 | Another oxymoron: innocuous note | CLOSET::DEVRIES | | Tue Jun 03 1986 14:21 | 3 |
| It seems that just when you submit a seemingly harmless contribution
into one of these conferences, it hits somebody's hot button and
the flames leap up.
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149.25 | | DSSDEV::TABER | It mattered once | Wed Jun 04 1986 08:58 | 5 |
| Can't agree with that...given the comment about NRA flames, it was
obviously meant to cause comment. On the other hand, I agree that it
belongs in SOAPBOX or some other file dedicated to pointless arguments.
>>>==>PStJTT
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149.26 | Is this an Oxymoron? | ATLAST::SESSIONS | Captain Video | Wed Jun 04 1986 12:42 | 3 |
|
Military Intelligence
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149.27 | No | SUMMIT::NOBLE | | Wed Jun 04 1986 13:31 | 2 |
| re: .26
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149.28 | Yes! | NOD::STEVENSON | | Wed Jun 04 1986 13:56 | 24 |
| re: .26
It's in the league with:
Jumbo Shrimp
Guest Host
(George Carlinisms)
But now, let's try making up some new ones that are at least close
to the dictionary definition of -
"A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms
are combined. . . . "
I'll submit the following for openers.
Express Checkout Line
Sears Customer Service Desk
Athletic Scholarship
Life Insurance
.
.
.
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149.29 | Stretching things a little... | APTECH::RSTONE | | Wed Jun 04 1986 15:30 | 10 |
| RE: .28
Sounds like some built-in bias in those first three. Your personal
experience may suggest the oxymoron category, but probably not the
original intent.
And how does "Life Insurance" differ from "Home Insurance", "Auto
Insurance", etc.? None of these will _insure_ that no loss will
occur, but rather will guarantee that someone will be indemnified
in the event that a loss occurs.
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149.30 | Intelligent conversation | EVER::MCVAY | Pete McVay | Wed Jun 04 1986 21:12 | 1 |
| ..or intelligent NOTing?
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149.31 | Even in real life, you can't escape | NERSW5::MCKENDRY | Kind of Cute, For a Dweeb | Tue Jun 10 1986 23:29 | 5 |
| We just received the second annual UFO Facilities Survey
yesterday, and its last page is reserved for General Special
Requests.
-John
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149.32 | | EVER::MCVAY | Pete McVay | Wed Jun 11 1986 09:42 | 3 |
| re; .31
UFO? What an interesting site name. Does the acronym fit?
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149.33 | | OBLIO::SHUSTER | RoB ShUsTeR | Wed Jun 11 1986 11:46 | 3 |
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If the acronym fits, beware it.
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149.34 | Seen in ZK2 | 4GL::GOODENOUGH | | Thu Jun 12 1986 17:47 | 3 |
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In-house Field Service
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149.35 | And, of course... | CLOSET::DEVRIES | | Fri Jul 11 1986 14:30 | 1 |
| DEC Standard
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149.36 | temporary tax | CLOSET::DEVRIES | | Fri Jul 11 1986 14:49 | 1 |
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149.37 | One from the real estate world | REX::EPSTEIN | Bruce Epstein | Fri Jul 11 1986 16:32 | 3 |
| This one actually appears on signs; there must be an explanation:
MLS exclusive
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149.38 | on another rainy day | NATASH::WEIGL | breathum via turbo - ergo faster | Sun Jul 13 1986 18:00 | 10 |
|
weather forecast
Webster's - forecast - to predict
predict - foretell
foretell - to indicate beforehand
my interpretation - they must honestly believe it's going to happen
when they tell us these things!!
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149.39 | Back to BASICs | REX::MINOW | Martin Minow -- DECtalk Engineering | Fri Jul 18 1986 22:31 | 25 |
| Getting back to the original topic, which, if you've forgotten, was:
THIS PAGE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK
Many years ago, dear children, the RSTS/E system generation program
had a few "hidden options" to enable monitor timings and the fancy
console lights program. For one release (perhaps V6-C), we decided
that hiding this good stuff was kind of silly, so an appendix was
added to document the options. It was, of course, called "Hidden
Sysgen Options."
Somewhere around the next release or so, the material in that chapter was
merged into the rest of the manual. Now, the page looked like this:
Appendix J
Hidden Sysgen Options
This page intentionally left blank.
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Martin.
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149.40 | Ideology Aside ... | INK::KALLIS | Support Hallowe'en | Wed Dec 17 1986 10:56 | 10 |
| This is really a semioxymoron. When speaking of those with a
philosophical agreement with a certain military/political event
in process in Central America, a radio announcer spoke of:
"... those taking the pro-Contra position ..."
admittedly, it looks less strange than it sounded.
Steve Kallis, Jr.
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149.41 | oxy-oxymoron? | REGENT::MERRILL | If you've got it, font it. | Tue Dec 23 1986 13:49 | 8 |
| It isn't half as bad as the classic
anti-dis-enstablishmentarianism
or is it?
RMM
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149.42 | | GENRAL::JHUGHES | NOTE, learn, and inwardly digest | Wed Jan 21 1987 18:26 | 20 |
|
Re .41:
> anti-dis-enstablishmentarianism
^
Should be "anti-dis-establishmentarianism".
Excuse the nit, which is for the benefit of readers who are unfamiliar
with the context, namely:
"(Those people who were in opposition to
(the group wishing to dis-establish the Church of
England, who were naturally in opposition to
(the group wishing to maintain the Church of
England as the established church of
the realm
)
)
)"
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149.43 | MADE BY THE FIRST COPYCAT? | SQM::LARRY_M | | Mon Feb 09 1987 20:34 | 5 |
| Haven't been looking at this conference for some time. Thought
it was about time I added another oxymoron.
ORIGINAL COPY
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149.44 | that's 800 . . . | VIDEO::OSMAN | and silos to fill before I feep, and silos to fill before I feep | Wed Feb 11 1987 15:33 | 11 |
| How about
TOLL FREE phone numbers
If at first glance you disagree that there's a contradiction here, because
you're one of those stuffed shirts that points you that "free modifies the
word toll, you see", then think again. For instance, how free is it by
the time you call and order something expensive (and "save" money too, not
to mention)
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149.45 | | MYCRFT::PARODI | John H. Parodi | Wed Feb 11 1987 16:07 | 12 |
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Re: .-1
That's not an oxymoron; it's an error. It should be:
Toll-free phone numbers
Now the $64,000 question becomes: "Is it a spelling error, a punctuation
error, or some other kind of error?"
JP
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149.46 | | DECWET::SHUSTER | Writers on the storm... | Wed Feb 11 1987 16:19 | 3 |
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For whom the phone tolls? It tolls for free.
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149.47 | | BEING::POSTPISCHIL | Always mount a scratch monkey. | Wed Feb 11 1987 16:58 | 9 |
| Re .44:
"Free" does not just mean "no expense". It can also mean "without". A
program which is error free has no errors, although many programs come
with errors at no expense. A toll-free phone number is one without a
toll.
-- edp
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149.48 | toll-free = free | SSDEVO::GOLDSTEIN | | Wed Feb 11 1987 19:27 | 8 |
| re .47
In this case, it amounts to the same thing. "Toll-free" doesn't
mean without expense, you're saying; it means without a toll. But
"without a toll" means without expense. There should be a name
for this.
Bernie
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149.49 | Might make it worth drinking! | AKOV68::BOYAJIAN | A disgrace to the forces of evil | Mon Feb 16 1987 05:32 | 5 |
| re:.47
And Pepsi Free has no Pepsi in it, right?
--- jerry
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149.50 | just killing dime | VINO::JMUNZER | | Wed Feb 18 1987 12:28 | 5 |
| Re .48:
There is a name for that: coincide.
John
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149.51 | "No PEPSI with lunch, thank you" | USATSL::LILLY | | Thu Mar 05 1987 13:28 | 8 |
| It must mean "without PEPSI", 'cause it cetainly isn't without expense.
So, in the expression "no such thing as a free lunch", is that a
lunch without expense, or a lunch without food? I know working
here, I've had a few LUNCH-FREE days, and a few FREE LUNCH days.
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149.52 | A great Oxymoron offered by my book club... | PSTJTT::TABER | Die again, Mortimer! Die again! | Fri Mar 06 1987 09:09 | 2 |
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