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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

146.0. "Speak English, sil vous plait!" by NY1MM::BONNELL () Fri Feb 07 1986 13:48

I found this letter in my local paper.  I present it here in it's entirety.
...diane


    English has been the "tie that binds" for the people of the United
    States. It has solidified a nation out of what might have been a
    loose collection of feuding ethic groups. 

    But today the postion of English as our common toungue is
    eroding rapidly. Immigrants are rejecting our time honored custom
    of assimilating into our society in favor of maintaining their own
    seperate languages and cultures.
    
    And our federal government is encouraging this trend by providing
    bilingual ballots, prolonged - rather than transitional bilingual
    education in public schools, and bilingual social services -
    including a national Hispanic university and other services that
    discourage the learning of English. 
    
    My Veterans Group - the Forty and Eight, is strongly opposed to
    the use of any language other than English, as the official
    language of America. 
    
    As the commander of the Forty and Eight in Monmouth County, I am
    asking every registered voter in our area to call or write to our
    U.S. senators and congressmen in support of the English Language
    Ammendment, currently before Congress. 
    
    And also ask them for a commitment to insist on high English
    language standards for the naturalization of immigrants. 
    
    George F. Himmel
    40/8 Chef de Gare
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146.1DR::BLINNSat Feb 08 1986 20:3822
Thanks for including the letter in it's [sic] entirety.

>    English ... has solidified a nation out of what might have been a
>    loose collection of feuding ethic groups.

What makes the writer think that America is _not_ a loose collection of 
feuding ethnic groups?

>    And also ask them for a commitment to insist on high English
>    language standards for the naturalization of immigrants.

While we're at it, how about high English language standards for 
graduation from high school?  Or at least college :^)

>    George F. Himmel
>    40/8 Chef de Gare

Is a "Chef de Gare" a railway stationmaster, or what?  And I suppose 
that he needs help with arithmetic -- "40/8" is five, so I suppose he is 
the fifth stationmaster, no?

Tom
146.2DELNI::CANTORTue Feb 11 1986 23:403
_Chef_de_Gare_ indeed!  Okay, everyone repeat after me.  Say "_La_Guerre!_"

Dave C.
146.3CHEV02::NESMITHWed Feb 12 1986 10:286
 > Say "La Guerre..."

Lager?  Yeah, I could go for a beer right now...


Susan
146.4AJAX::CALLASWed Feb 12 1986 21:581
Could he have meant "gare"? It means "station" doesn't it? Or am I confused?
146.5DR::BLINNSun Feb 16 1986 18:446
Yes, he _could_ have meant "gare", which is the French word for "railway 
station", but I really doubt that's what he meant.  But then, he doesn't 
believe in knowing any language except English, and seems to be proud of 
it.  Are you confused?  How should I know?

Tom
146.6VOGON::GOODENOUGHMon Feb 17 1986 05:347
Apart from "Gare":

	Ethic, Toungue, Ammendment ?

I'd be amused to know if these were in the original, or just Diane's typos.

Jeff.
146.7NY1MM::BONNELLTue Feb 18 1986 13:498
re: .6

	ooops. those are mine.  that should be ethnic, tongue and amendment.

...diane

(I thought "gare" was just "station", not "railway station".  but high school
french was a long time ago.)
146.8VOGON::GOODENOUGHThu Feb 20 1986 07:036
I believe you can have "gare d'autobus".

Where is Didier?  The only notefile where he's needed, and he's not here!
:-)  :-)

Jeff.
146.9PRSIS3::DTLThu Feb 20 1986 06:3432
huh? someone knocked at the door?  What's going on here???

Gare? which fish???

btw, why hasn't this *&^%#* system a VNOTES server?

Okay, Diane marks one point. Gare is station

Railway station is "gare des Chemins de Fer", or commonly known as "gare".

Bus station is "gare des autobus" (because there are generally more than one
bus in a gare), but today we usually say "gare routi�re".

"gare!" is "warning!" or "care!"
Example: "gare au gorille" (care of the gorilla)  (from Georges Brassens' song)

"gare" is also the imperative form of the verb "garer" (to park)
Example: "gare toi l� et tant pis pour les flics" (park here and the cops
may go and ***)
[End of buffer] huh? what end of buffer?? ha! sorry.. Vnotes...

Well .. what did I say? 
yes, war is of course "guerre" (War and Peace, Dostoiewski, = Guerre et Paix)

So, 40/8 Chef de gare is stationmaster for station number 8 on line 40

Obvious!

next?

:-)
                
146.10APTECH::RSTONETue Feb 25 1986 16:3124
RE: 40/8 Chef de Gare

In the text of the man's letter he referred to "My Veterans Group - the
Forty and Eight....".  I'm just old enough to recall learning that this group
is made up of men who fought in France during World War I.  They took their
name from the 40/8 notation marked on the French railroad cars used for 
military transport.  The 40/8 reference meant that the car would hold 40 men or
8 horses.

In his next paragraph he identifies himself as the Commander of his local 
organization, hence his title of "Chef de Gare" translates into the 
"Commander of the Station".  In an American Legion or VFW Post (in the military
a "station" or "post" being essentially synonymous) the title is "Post
Commander".

While it appears that his use of the French title belies the message in his
letter, it might be well to recognize that the English language, as we know it,
has roots from many, many other cultures.  His real point is that there has 
been no other ethnic group which has been accorded the privilege of officially
sanctioned by-lingual consideration.  I don't wish to offend anyone who may
identify as his target, but frankly, I have a little difficulty on
that point also.

Roy