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Title: | The Joy of Lex |
Notice: | A Notes File even your grammar could love |
Moderator: | THEBAY::SYSTEM |
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Created: | Fri Feb 28 1986 |
Last Modified: | Mon Jun 02 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 1192 |
Total number of notes: | 42769 |
137.0. "Who you callin' a YOBBO???" by CLOSET::DEVRIES () Thu Jan 09 1986 14:30
A lexical discussion excerpted from:
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Edition : 980 Thursday 9-Jan-1986 Circulation : 2174
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From: George Chaprass ....................................... Merrimack, NH, USA
Some more bric-a-brac about Brits and the Revolutionary Rabble was
suggested by the following item in VNS # 978.
Parliament, European Parliament/EEC, Law and Politics
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Labour choose Militant Tendency supporter Pat Wall to fight
marginal Conservative seat in Bradford North.
The following is excerpted, paraphrased, stolen from, and added to an
article; "On Language", William Safire, New York Times, 5 January
1986.
Britain's Parliament, like the American Congress, has a list of
proscribed words that members must not call one another. Decorum
(whatever that is) must be maintained, even at the cost of suppressing
most of the colorful slang that politicos use in private debate;
politicos, incidentally, is the plural of POLITICO.
On occasion, comes a word that has not been ruled upon. One such word
is YOBBO, a term now sweeping Britain, though it has yet to make an
impact on this side of the Atlantic.
In the House of Commons, when Norman Tebbit, the Conservative
Party chairman, derided a group called the Militant Tendency
within the Labor Party, Neil Kinnock, the opposition leader, led
his supporters in what was described in the daily telegraph as
"uncontrolled giggling" and "tie-slicking." This demonstration
caused the Conservative to label his tormentors, who would not
let him speak, "a bunch of YOBBOS". -- [tie-slicking, i believe,
is holding the tie twixt fore-finger and thumb, and stroking or
slicking the tie from about mid-tie to bottom; please correct me
on this if i err].
A YOBBO is a ruffian. Mr Tebbit defines the slang word as follows: a
low-grade, street corner thug. A Labor front bencher called Mr. Tebbit
a "street-corner lout", which is synonymous with YOBBO; lout, however,
is standard English. The noun YOBBO has lent itself to adaptation in
the adjective YOBBISH and a second noun, YOBBISM, which, presumably,
is a belief in the values of hanging out on street corners and being a
YOB. YOB is the original word and is backslang [spelling or
pronouncing a word backwards] for BOY; it came into general slang use
just after World war I.
Butcher's backslang was used as a code to conceal from customers the
nefarious messages that passed between meat-cutters. "give her the
DEE-LOW TEAM" = "give her the OLD MEAT"; KAY-ROP = PORK and BEE-MAL =
LAMB. A YOB was a butcher's boy, an assistant or delivery boy, and as
the extension BOY-O was used, so was its backslang YOB-O or YOBBO.
The insulting -O formation has its counterparts among the
Revolutionary Rabble, too; KIDDO (kid, child), WINO (wine drinker
extraordinaire), PINKO (pink, red, communist). A pinko is called a
COMMO by the British, and garbage is called GARBO by the Aussies.
More on other "lovelies" as time permits -- just what is a "lovely"...
in England... in Wales...in Scotland...in Ireland...in Australia...in
New Zealand...?
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137.1 | Older than you think ... | IOSG::DEMORGAN | | Fri May 08 1987 07:32 | 8 |
| I've only just discovered this NOTES file, hence the delay in this
reply. Yobbo has been with us for longer than you think - at least
twenty years. Yob was in use in use in the 19th century, being Cockney
backslang (cf "the Hoxton Yob" in one of Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock
Holmes short stories - I can't remember which, but I'll try and
find it.)
Richard De Morgan.
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137.2 | Found it! | COMICS::DEMORGAN | Richard De Morgan, UK CSC/CS | Fri Aug 14 1987 04:48 | 6 |
| Re .1 - I was wrong, it was not in a Sherlock Holmes Story, it was
in "The Case of Laker, Absconded" by Arthur Morrison, a contempory
of Conan Doyle's. In "The Penguin Complete Rivals of Sherlock Holmes",
ed Hugh Greene (former Controller of the BBC), a date of 1891 is
given as the publication of the 2nd edition of the book containing
it.
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137.3 | | MARVIN::WALSH | | Tue Apr 25 1989 13:28 | 6 |
| I've never seen the usage COMMO to denote a communist, only COMMIE.
I've heard "lovely" used as a 2nd person endearment in the West
Country, as in "What can I do for you, lovely?"
Chris
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