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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

103.0. "Boston, a great city to be !" by SPRITE::OSMAN () Thu Oct 10 1985 08:41

The "look up it" discussion in 102 reminds me of another English situation
where something ought sound right and doesn't.

An advertisement by Denver, Col.'s Chamber of
Commerce (or its equivalent auspice) as you approach the city reads

	Welcome to Denver, a nice place to live !

This sounds o.k.  But what if it said the following instead:

	Welcome to Denver, a nice city to live !

Personally, I'm begging to edit the latter to "a nice city to live IN".

How shall we explain this one to the English student ?

Similarly, consider:

	Boston, a great place to be !

That's o.k., but what about

	Boston, a great city to be !

Kind of makes me wonder what it would feel like to "be" the city of
Boston.

/Eric
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103.1ERIE::CANTORSat Oct 12 1985 15:389
I'm not sure of this, as it's been years and years since I've last thought
of it, but isn't the noun 'place' in "a great place to be" in what in Latin
is called the LOCATIVE case?  It doesn't require a preposition, apparently.
How about "I'm going home"?  Maybe only certain nouns can be used this way.
You wouldn't say "I'm going store" or "I'm going work."  In the case of 'home,'
the noun is used as an adverb.  How weird!

Dave C.
i'm going bye-bye
103.2BEORN::BENCEMon Oct 21 1985 13:166
	Growing up on the South Shore (Braintree), the common phrase for
	for "I'm going to visit Boston" was

		"I'm going in town."

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103.3NUHAVN::CANTORMon Oct 21 1985 17:254
In Everett, we also said "I'm going in town," meaning the same as it did
in Braintree.

Dave C.
103.4INDY::BRYANFri Nov 22 1985 13:0610
... loosely related to the above, how about a local New England 
favorite:
 
  'down cellar' as I'm going down cellar.

Back where I come from (as in Kansas), we call cellars 'basements', 
pocketbooks 'purses', carriages 'shopping carts', bags 'sacks', etc.
But to go 'down [in the] cellar' really shocks me.

-Dorothy & Toto-