| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
|---|
| 48.1 | | Ghost::DEAN | | Tue Feb 05 1985 17:22 | 11 |
| As far as the verb that may or may not be, if it becomes a verb, the part that
is prepositional should seperate from the verb it self, 'to fail over'. That
way it is explicit that the conjugation would then follow the conjugation of
the verb 'to fail.' You have never seen it seperated? Have you seen things
that others have written that are not proper, 'your' for 'you're,' et cetera?
What used to confuse me was how to handle the verb blow-dry, as in hair. Had I
blow-dried my hair, or had I blown-dry my hair or had I blown-dried my hair.
Which leads to: 'blew-dry,' 'blew-dried' and 'blow-dried.'
<-Emulp ed mon->
|
| 48.2 | | HYSTER::MITCHELL | | Fri Feb 08 1985 08:52 | 5 |
| Failover? Geez, the word gives me an unspeakable pain. Who
outside of Digital is even going to know what the word means?
There are other ways to get the same point across . . . .
Mark
|
| 48.3 | | NUHAVN::CANTOR | | Fri Feb 08 1985 11:30 | 9 |
| Should the noun form be 'over-failure'?
If we (Digital) are going to prescribe rules about how to use the words
we invent, maybe we should copyright the words.
Failover (n.) (c) Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard, Massachusetts,
what disks do after they fail. They failover again. Slightly redundant.
Dave C.
|
| 48.4 | | VIA::LASHER | | Fri Feb 08 1985 17:58 | 1 |
| "Over-failure" sounds like a nasty destiny for an "over-achiever."
|
| 48.5 | | ERIS::CALLAS | | Sat Feb 09 1985 14:23 | 31 |
| re .2:
Geez, the word gives me an unspeakable pain.
But apparently not untypable pain... :-)
Who outside of Digital is even going to know what the word means?
An awful lot of people do/will. The first time I heard the word was as a
software specialist. I was asked, "When are you guys going to have failover?" I
think you're uncomfortable with the word because you are unfamiliar with it.
There are other ways to get the same point across . . . .
Name one. More to the point, name one that isn't a circumlocution. I like the
word. It has a certain euphony and rolls off the tongue easily. What "failover"
needs is a rigorous definition. Then we can make noise when it is used
improperly. Let me give a first draft definition:
Fail over, vi. [FAIL, v. + OVER, prep] to transfer control, function, or
responsibility [the disks fail over] -- vt. to cause a redundant system to
assume the function of or responsibility for [fail over the disks]
Failover, n. The process of either of the above. [failover occurs when X
happens]
I don't see the problem with using "fail over" as a transitive verb. If I can
crash a computer, then I should be able to fail over a computer.
I'm not entirely pleased with this definition; I think that it is both too
vague and too specific. Comments, anyone?
|
| 48.6 | | GVAEIS::BARTA | | Sun Feb 10 1985 20:03 | 38 |
| Re .1: << flame >>
Look, you guys. The name of this Notes file -- look above -- is
supposed to be "JOY of lex". .1 above is anything but a joy. (Yes, I
know this should go in as a reply to some other note, but it would
probably be SEVERAL notes, and I don't have the energy or patience to
look for them -- across the Atlantic, as you might say.)
Here it is:
>As far as the verb that may or may not be, if it becomes a verb, the part that
>is prepositional should seperate from the verb it self, 'to fail over'. That
>way it is explicit that the conjugation would then follow the conjugation of
>the verb 'to fail.' You have never seen it seperated? Have you seen things
>that others have written that are not proper, 'your' for 'you're,' et cetera?
>
>What used to confuse me was how to handle the verb blow-dry, as in hair. Had I
>blow-dried my hair, or had I blown-dry my hair or had I blown-dried my hair.
>Which leads to: 'blew-dry,' 'blew-dried' and 'blow-dried.'
(a) "As far as" what? Is there perhaps something missed out --
"... is concerned", possibly?
(b) "SepErate" yet again???!!!
(c) "Separate" what? It is a TRANSITIVE verb. Or was it "BE separate"?
(d) "It self"?
(e) "Had I ..." without quotes AND without the tiniest little question
mark?
(f) A sentence beginning with "Which"? (None of these points are
sentences either, I must admit. But this is a flame.)
Ah well. Once a pedant, always a pedant, I suppose.
Gabriel.
|
| 48.7 | | SUPER::MATTHEWS | | Wed Feb 13 1985 23:17 | 9 |
| This quote, from writer Gilbert Highet, appears in the American Heritage
Dictionary:
I have great admiration for the American genius for creating
short vivid words (often dissyllabic) to express complex ideas,
for example, a collision between a vehicle and another object
which is not direct but lateral or oblique, "sideswipe."
"Failover."
|
| 48.8 | | NY1MM::SWEENEY | | Thu Feb 21 1985 21:37 | 10 |
| Try thinking of "succeedunder" as the opposite of "failover".
We've got "holdover" as in "His ideas are a holdover from the days when you
could sell computers without marketing them."
We've got Passover. We've got "hangover" (and "overhang").
Hey! This is fun! What other "-over" words are there?
Pat Sweeney
|
| 48.9 | | NUHAVN::CANTOR | | Fri Feb 22 1985 02:11 | 15 |
| East Overshoe. I believe it's somewhere near the source of Schytz Creek (where
you can be up without a paddle), and just south of Frostbite Falls.
Oops. Sorry, Pat. You asked for "-over" words and I gave you an "over-" word.
Pushover.
Overring. (Something a cashier does, and also the wrongly uprung amount.)
Overbearing.
Overcoat.
Oversee, -r, -ing
Overseas.
Left-over.
Dave C.
Out-and-over.
|
| 48.10 | | NY1MM::SWEENEY | | Fri Feb 22 1985 09:59 | 3 |
| Turnover as in the apple variety.
Pat Sweeney
|
| 48.11 | | SUPER::MATTHEWS | | Fri Feb 22 1985 10:17 | 12 |
| "Turnover," which is not the same as "overturn."
"Takeover," which is not the same as "overtake."
Since writing .0 I've read some of the non-DEC literature on fault-tolerant
computing. Some writers use "takeover" and "switchover" like we use "failover,"
and I bet I could find more words for the same thing if I kept reading. There
are computer scientists who spend their time pinning down definitions of words,
so maybe someday there will be industry-wide agreement on this one.
(I like "succeedunder," and am looking for a context in which to use it...)
Val
|
| 48.12 | | SPRITE::OSMAN | | Fri Feb 22 1985 15:59 | 130 |
| Out of obvious obnoxiousness, ought one offer other "over"s on-line ?
Here are most of the words containing "over" in the english language :-)
allover antipoverty changeover
clover cloverleaf cloverleaves
controversial controversialism controversialist
controversially controversy controvert
controverter controvertible cover
coverable coverage coverall
coveralled covered coverer
covering coverless coverlet
coverslip covert covertly
covertness coverture covery
crossover cutover disapprover
discover discoverable discovered
discoverer discovery drover
dustcover extroversion extrovert
extroverted flashover flopover
flyover glover govern
governable governance governess
governessy government governmental
governmentalism governmentalist governmentalize
governmentally governor governorate
governorship groover hangover
hardcover holdover hover
hovered hoverer hovering
impoverish impoverished impoverisher
impoverishment improver incontrovertible
incontrovertibly indiscoverable intergovernmental
introversion introversive introversively
introvert irrecoverable irrecoverableness
irrecoverably layover leftover
lover loverly misgovern
misgovernment moreover mover
noncrossover nongovernment nongovernmental
over overabundance overabundant
overachiever overact overaction
overactive overage overaggressive
overall overarching overarm
overate overawe overbalance
overbear overbearing overbearingly
overbid overbite overblown
overboard overbook overbought
overbuild overburden overbuy
overcall overcapacity overcapitalization
overcapitalize overcast overcasting
overcautious overcharge overcloud
overcoat overcoating overcome
overcomer overcommit overcommitment
overcompensation overcompensatory overconfidence
overconfident overconfidently overcrowd
overdetermined overdevelop overdevelopment
overdo overdominance overdominant
overdose overdraft overdraw
overdrawn overdress overdrive
overdue overeat overeaten
overeater overeating overemphasis
overemphasize overestimate overestimation
overexpose overexposure overextend
overfatigue overfatigued overfill
overfish overflight overflow
overfly overgarment overglaze
overgraze overgrow overgrowth
overhand overhanded overhang
overhaul overhead overhear
overheat overindulge overindulgence
overindulgent overing overissue
overjoy overkill overland
overlap overlay overleap
overlearn overlie overload
overlong overlook overlord
overlordship overly overman
overmaster overmatch overmuch
overnight overoptimism overoptimist
overoptimistic overoptimistically overpass
overpersuade overpersuasion overplay
overplus overpopulated overpopulation
overpower overpoweringly overpraise
overpressure overprice overprint
overprize overproduce overproduction
overproof overproportion overproportionate
overproportionately overprotect overprotection
overprotective overqualified overrate
overreach overreacher overreact
overreaction overrefinement overrepresented
override overripe overrule
overrun oversea overseas
oversee overseer oversell
oversensitive oversensitiveness overset
oversexed overshadow overshoe
overshoot overshot oversight
oversimple oversimplification oversimplify
oversize oversized overskirt
overslaugh oversleep overslip
oversold oversoul overspecialization
overspeculate overspeculation overspend
overspender overspill overspread
overstate overstatement overstay
oversteer overstep overstock
overstory overstrew overstride
overstrung overstuff oversubscribe
oversubscription oversubtle oversupply
overt overtake overtax
overthrow overtime overtly
overtness overtone overtop
overtrade overtrain overtrick
overtrump overture overturn
overuse overvaluation overvalue
overview overvoltage overwatch
overwear overweary overweening
overweigh overweight overwhelm
overwhelmingly overwind overwinter
overword overwork overwrite
overwrought plover plovers
popover poverty prover
proverb proverbial proverbially
pullover pushover recover
recoverability recoverable recovered
recoverer recovering recovery
remover reprover retroversion
rollover rover runover
semigovernmental shover slipcover
slipover sovereign sovereignly
sovereignty spillover stopover
stover strikeover takeover
trover turnover uncover
uncovered undercover ungovernable
walkover windhover wingover
|
| 48.13 | | NY1MM::SWEENEY | | Sun Feb 24 1985 12:33 | 3 |
| Overdone!
Pat Sweeney
|
| 48.14 | | NY1MM::BONNELL | | Tue Feb 26 1985 14:18 | 1 |
| overkill
|
| 48.15 | | DR::BLINN | | Sun Jan 12 1986 19:52 | 12 |
| I believe the word you're looking for is one of those listed in .12 --
REC-OVER
(As distiguished from WRECK-OVER, that is, to wreck again.)
What the disk subsystem does after a failure is recover from the failure
(with the help of the operating system software).
Capish?
Tom
|
| 48.16 | | WELMTS::GIBSON | Alan Gibson @WLO | Tue Oct 27 1987 11:24 | 1 |
| Is "pushover" the opposite of "pullover"?
|