Title: | BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest |
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(Note: the following was written in response to an article she had received via email). Your Op-Ed came to me just this very moment and I just had to respond quickly, and hopefully briefly, but let you know that I thank you for it! It is a key opportunity for me as a gentile Believer in HaShem, the Father of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem! It would seem so hopeless, in one sense, because I live in the USA, and I have to live with the shame of having a president who pretends to love Israel but who is much more sympathetic to those whose avowed intent is to push Israel into the sea. So I want to cry out to Netanyahu not to believe him, and not to give in in any way to his slick but totally deceptive promises, or should I use the word "threats". He may have the power of our nation (which has to be blind to allow it, but who says goyim are smart or have eyes?), but no nation, even one as large as ours, has ANY power at all in comparison to your G-d! I cry because of the near future for your country if the present trend continues, but I rejoice for the final outcome! You see, I "read the back of the book", as any American mystery book reader would phrase it. It is obvious to me that the TaNaKh was written, knowing the end from the beginning, and the Prophets have spoken of a great battle at the end of this age, when the whole world comes against tiny Israel, and right at the time when it looks the most bleak, and Israel, though even with all her military and every other kind of superiority, she feels helpless andalone, Israel will cry out as one voice to their Holy One, and as He has always done, He will come and vanquish with one blast from His nostrils, all the world's powers and rescue His own, and finally, as you have dreamed for centuries, Messiah will come and reign at last, and you will be the head of the nations. So you see, I cry for the next few tomorrows, but as the Great Shabbat century approaches, that bleak few months of horror will give way to rejoicing, that darkness will burst into full morning light, for all of you, as your Meschiach comes at last! May I be permitted by HaShem to be one of the gentiles who is privileged to carry some of you into the land on my own shoulders. Right now those are shoulders of prayer, but so may it be! You are His beloved, and soon you will know it! Really know it! Baruch Haba B'Shem Adonai! Suzanne (Shoshannah)
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1514.1 | I'll bet I know what she has been reading... | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Thu Feb 20 1997 16:44 | 5 |
>I "read the back of the book" The Revelation of St. John the Divine? /john | |||||
1514.2 | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Thu Feb 20 1997 17:58 | 2 | |
John, she said she read the back of the Tanakh. I too believe Ezekiel 38 is fast approaching. | |||||
1514.3 | She said "the back of the book" | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Thu Feb 20 1997 21:10 | 26 |
I'm not so sure she is referring to Ezekiel. Chronicles is the back of the TaNaKh, right? From the Soc.Culture.Jewish faq: Torah: Books of Genesis (B'reishis), Exodus (Sh'mos), Leviticus (Vayikra), Numbers(Bamidbar), and Deuteronomy(D'varim). N'viim (Prophets): Books of Joshua, Judges, I Samuel, II Samuel, I Kings, II Kings, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habukkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi. K'Tuvim (Writings): Books of Psalms, Proverbs, Job, Song of Songs, Ruth, Lamentations, Ecclesiastes, Esther, Daniel, Ezra and Nehemiah, I Chronicles, and II Chronicles. When Susannah writes that she has read "the back of the book", although she could be speaking metaphorically, I suspect she is more likely referring to the eschatology in the Apocalypse (which draws imagery from Ezekiel and other prophets). /john | |||||
1514.4 | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Thu Feb 20 1997 21:16 | 2 | |
Chronicles, or the other Writings, aren't really prophetic (outside of Daniel). Psalms contains some non-eschatological prophecy | |||||
1514.5 | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Thu Feb 20 1997 21:31 | 18 | |
> Chronicles, or the other Writings, aren't really prophetic Indeed, that's why they appear in the "Writings" not in the "Prophets." And also why I don't think she was referring to the back of the TaNaKh when she said "the back of the book." > (outside of Daniel). I thought only Christians considered Daniel prophetic, which is why that book appears among the Writings in copies of the TaNaKh, instead of among the Prophets, as it does (together with Lamentations) in Christian bibles. Similarly, Christian bibles have Joshua, Judges, Ruth Samuel, Kings, Chronicles, Ezra, and Nehemiah in a section called "Historical Books", and all the other books not part of The Law in a section called "Poetical Books." /john | |||||
1514.6 | What is the Point? | CPCOD::JOHNSON | Peace can't be founded on injustice | Thu Feb 20 1997 23:20 | 19 |
Does it matter? The point is this is a person who is pro-Israel, pro-Jews, and pro-God. I too listen to the news and feel saddened and sickened, and dis-heartened at the actions of the U.S. and other nations, but know that God will rescue Israel in the end. This knowledge that God will rescue Israel in the end comes from a whole host of comforting words God gave to Israel through the prophets and other writers of the Tanakh - it is an end that is really a beginning, and not the literal last book of the Tanakh. There is a wonderful CD called "Moshiach" by Mordecai ben David. It has a song on it that likens the coming of moshiach to the arrival of dawn on a battle field where a soldier has been creeping along alone and afraid, and the dawn reveals his comrades and the victory that is their's. I think it is a great analogy, and has "heart". I think the heart of the writer of the note posted in .0 would be dismayed at your what you are quibbling over. Leslie | |||||
1514.7 | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Fri Feb 21 1997 18:14 | 4 | |
My apologies if you thought I was "quibbling." I don't think there is any question that the phrase "back of the book" was an idiom. Mike |