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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:SMURF::FENSTER
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1524
Total number of notes:18709

1449.0. "A proper funeral for dad" by EMIRFI::SLARSKEY () Tue Feb 07 1995 16:38

My mother passed away 10 years ago and her funeral arrangements and 
shiva were taken care of by family members. Since then, my father 
re-married and his health is declining rapidly, daily, and it looks like 
a funeral for my father is in the very near future.

This is the situation. My father moved to Florida in August and the 
woman he married does not plan on attending the funeral, but will have
his body sent back to his hometown to be buried next to my mother. The
family, in general, has relocated and there is no one left in our 
hometown, including myself. I live approximately 2 hours from where my 
father will be buried, but I plan on holding shiva at my house (my 
brother from California will be staying with me for a week).

My question...usually following a funeral, those in attendence return to 
the house of mourning. Since I live so far, this could be a burden for 
some. Can someone suggest a more immediate solution for the day of the 
funeral. Also, what can and should I do to provide a proper funeral and 
shiva for my father. I have never had to deal with a funeral in the past,
so any suggestions and/or directions would be appreciated. 

My father was, when my mother was alive, a very religious man (Orthodox),
but since he re-married things are quite different. I believe strongly 
that my father would like want a proper Jewish burial and as his 
daughter I want to do what is right arranging the day of the funeral, 
shiva and anything else that I should be involved in. Please advise.

Appreciate,
Marcia 
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1449.1Some suggestionsSMURF::SREBNICKDavid Srebnick, 8*381-2969, USG DEGTue Feb 07 1995 23:5746
One option is to check with the Rabbi who will be performing the ceremony,
especially if he's local to the cemetary.

You might think about renting a room at a nearby synagogue, funeral home,
or perhaps even a hotel.  Guests who attended the funeral could visit you
there, and you could travel back home later in the day.  I don't know whether
there are any halachic problems with doing things this way.

Still another option might be to sit shiva at the home of a friend of your
father's, if there is one located close to the cemetary.

As for providing a shiva "for your father": The shiva (that is to say, the
observances of shiva) are for you, not for your father.

Your local Rabbi can help with the preparations for shiva.  There is very
little that you need to do in advance.  Probably the most important thing
at this point is to find a Rabbi to help you through the process.

I don't have a complete list of stuff, but here are the things that come
to mind:

 - It is customary to wash your hands when you return from the cemetary.
   Put a few pitchers of water, a large bowl, a few cups, and towels on
   a small table at the entrance of your house.

 - You'll need to cover (or remove) the mirrors for the entire shiva
   period.  Usually, people just hang sheets over them.

 - All mourners (your Dad's brothers, sisters, children) should sit on
   hard, low chairs.  Some synagogues provide cardboard boxes for this
   purpose.  The key is: no cushions.  You need these only for the family,
   not the visitors.

 - If you'll be having a minyan at the house, you'll need some prayer
   books, yarmulkes, and someone to lead them.  You may want to have
   spare tallit and tefillin.  Most synagogues have "shiva kits" containing
   these things that they'll lend to you.

 - Family, friends, and others should provide for your meals.  People
   will send you fruit baskets and deli platters.  They'll come to your
   house to cook and to feed you and your guests, and to clean up.

I might suggest the book "The Jewish Way in Death and Mourning" by Norman
Lamm.  Excellent book on this subject.  It should answer most of your
questions.  It is focused on "what to do", rather than "why do we do this."
Rabbi Lamm is an Orthodox authority.
1449.2Appreciate your suggestions and supportEMIRFI::SLARSKEYWed Feb 08 1995 14:5912
David,

Thank you for all your suggestions. I appreciate any and all support 
during this period. It was suggested to me to talk with my own Rabbi to 
see if he can help me with a local Rabbi in the town where my father 
would be buried. In this respect, perhaps your suggestion of the use of 
a local temple would come into play. As for shiva, I have many friends 
that have already offered their assistance, so I feel comfortable in 
that respect. The only concern at the moment is the day of the funeral.

Appreciate your support and advice,
Marcia
1449.3NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Feb 08 1995 16:392
A slight correction to .1: the author of "The Jewish Way in Death and Mourning"
is Maurice Lamm, who I believe is Norman's brother.