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Title: | BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest |
Notice: | 1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration |
Moderator: | SMURF::FENSTER |
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Created: | Mon Feb 03 1986 |
Last Modified: | Thu Jun 05 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 1524 |
Total number of notes: | 18709 |
1359.0. "Battle of the Rabbis" by TNPUBS::C_MILLER () Fri Aug 27 1993 21:10
Maybe someone can explain to me the following situation, since I can't
fathom what the problem is!
In July I contacted the rabbi at the synagogue I grew up in (rabbi #1)
to officiate at my wedding next summer. My *parents* have been members
since 1967. I was Bas Mitzvah'd and confirmed at this synagogue, but
not by this Rabbi. We are not overly impressed with him, nor have that
close a relationship, but because I am familiar with the congregation,
building, site, plus the location was close to our proposed reception
site, it made the logical choice. I met with him one with my fiance and
he seemed in favor of officiating, although gave us the option of
having the Rabbi I grew up with (Rabbi #2) officiate instead. We
decided that politically it would be better to stick with #1.
Well, due to circumstances beyond my control, our wedding plans changed
completely. We chose a different site for the reception, which happened
to be 2 miles from the site of Rabbi #2 and his synagogue. By the way,
Rabbi #2 Bas Mitzvah'd me, and officiated at my sister's wedding a few
years ago. Rabbi #2 readily agreed to officiate at his synagogue (which
we are paying through the nose since we are non-members).
Now the problem: I told Rabbi #1 that due to logistics, we had changed
our mind and were going with Rabbi #2. He went ballistic. I don't
understand why! I always wanted #2 and #1 knew that...but why now he is
causing trouble is beyond me. #1 called #2 who in turn called me in
panic mode because #1 was bent out of shape that we *aren't* having it
at that synagogue or with him. #2 (who is kind of wimpy) suggested
having them BOTH officiate at the ceremony. I said I could only afford
one (implying, but not saying they'd have to split their fee). My
fiance phoned back #1 who said he was "very upset and disappointed"
over our change of plans..not specifically saying why. I truly do not
understand what his problem is! We signed no contract, had not done any
conseling with him, nor discussed the wedding in any length. Is he
angry because he lost a paid function for a day? is his ego just
bruised? what is the problem!!??
Thanks,
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1359.1 | | NOTIME::SACKS | Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085 | Fri Aug 27 1993 21:26 | 4 |
| I gather that these aren't Orthodox synagogues. In Orthodox weddings, it's
the norm for multiple rabbis to participate. The mesader kiddushin is the
one who really officiates and usually only he gets paid. Other rabbis
read the kesuba, say sheva brachos, etc.
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1359.2 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Fri Aug 27 1993 22:59 | 4 |
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Just about every wedding I have been to, no matter the denomination, had
one Rabbi officiating (msader kiddushin) and then other Rabbis participting
in various ways. Only the "officiating" Rabbi was paid.
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1359.3 | | TNPUBS::C_MILLER | | Mon Aug 30 1993 19:45 | 4 |
| Both rabbis are reform. I am not so much concerned about having two
rabbis officate, rather, why #1 was so upset that he was very nicely
told no thank you. Is it monetary? ego? With my parents being members
there was no fee for having the ceremony there.
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1359.4 | | MIMS::LOKIETZ_S | Steve Lokietz ALF/CSC 343-1082 | Tue Sep 21 1993 21:43 | 9 |
| Who really knows why people react the way they do? I wouldn't worry
about rabbi #1. You didn't do anything unfair or unethical. It's his
problem he can't handle it. If you want rabbi #2, just go with him and
have a great wedding. This is supposed to be a joyful thing for you.
There are enough things to be concerned about in planning a wedding as
it is!
/sl
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1359.5 | A thought... | GOOEY::GOOEY::SCHOELLER | Fahr mit der Schnecken-Post | Wed Sep 29 1993 05:14 | 6 |
| Is it possible that he had declined some other engagement because of yours?
If so, he might be upset at the lost opportunity (and revenue).
L'shana tovah,
Gav
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