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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:SMURF::FENSTER
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1524
Total number of notes:18709

1346.0. "PLEASE HELP" by BERIS3::DGOTTHEINER () Mon Jul 12 1993 17:09

Shalom to all,

first, sorry for maybe taken the wrong note but I even
don't have any time to read all in this conference.
Maybe somenone will write me how to find the index.

Also sorry about my written english, it's got worse the last year's.

I need your help.

little story,

I'am a jewish women born and live in Germany.(Berlin)
I'am searching for the sister of my father in
Oakland/California Helga L�wenstein and my uncle 
Julius L�wenstein, both born in Germany and left
this country 1938 on different way's and met
in USA.
My father and nearly the rest of the family (grandma,
cousins, uncles etc) stayed in Germany. 
He was the only one who survived the Holocaust.

My father died seven year's ago until this time
I got no contact to my aunt, also I saw her just
two times in my life when I was a little girl.

Julius and Helga must near 80 years old and I hope
there still living. The old address I had isn't actual.
Maybe there are in a jewish home of old people.
I have no idear how to get from germany any information.

Helga was activ in some jewish organization like
WIZO, Keren Kayemed etc.
There have no child's, that I know.

My questions to you: Is there anybody who have
family or friends in California, maybe there know them ???

Thank's a lot in advance

L'hitraot
Daniela Gottheiner @Beo
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1346.1press KP7 for the usual behaviorGOOEY::GVRIEL::SCHOELLERFahr mit der Schnecken-PostMon Jul 12 1993 18:438
Hallo Daniela,

If the people in here are unable to help, you may want to take a look in
DSSDEV::GENEALOGY where there are a variety of hints on finding living people
(in addition to the usual things about finding dead ones  8^{).

L'hit (oder soll ich Tch�� schreiben?),
Gav
1346.2TALLIS::KIRKMon Jul 12 1993 22:574
    Do they have any children?  One of my friends says there's a Jeff 
    & Rose Lowenstein in Oakland,  and Mark & Andrea in Albany. There's 
    no listing in that area for Helga or Julius (they might have an
    unlisted number).
1346.3RE:PLS HELPBERIS3::DGOTTHEINERTue Jul 13 1993 12:2212
I'am sure that they have no children.
I'think there are only two possibilities
-both in a jewish home of old people , around Oakland
 or both are dead (I really hope they not)

I'am sure both are members in the jewish community Oakland
My hope, that anyone of you know jewish people in Oakland or
live in Oakland and be also member of the jewish community Oakland.

Thank's
Daniela
1346.4re:press k7pfBERIS3::DGOTTHEINERTue Jul 13 1993 13:5014
Gav,

thank's. I just had a look in genealogy, everything I saw
that people searching for his families trees. 
Also it's very difficult and take a lot of time to read
everything, because of my worse english.

Es w�hre sehr nett, wenn Du mir einige Tip's in Deutsch
vermitteln k�nntest, vorrausgesetzt Du m�chtest oder
hast die Zeit dazu. Daniela Gottheiner@beo 

Shalom
Daniela
1346.5More helpTROOA::RITCHEFrom the desk of Allen Ritche...Tue Jul 13 1993 17:2317
Daniela,

Yesterday, I sent you 2 VMSmail messages with some explanation.  The second
mail contains output from the Jewish Family Finder which shows 13 matches on
the surname LOWENSTEIN, some originating in Germany.

As well, I included the names and addressess of the individuals who are also
researching the LOWENSTEIN family name.  Some of these addresses are on the
U.S. west coast.  As I suggested, you could write or telephone these people
for some leads.

One of these LOWENSTEIN genealogists lives in the Toronto area.  If you like,
I can call for you and try to find out if there is any link to your
Lowenstein's in California.

Regards,
Allen
1346.6GOOEY::GVRIEL::SCHOELLERFahr mit der Schnecken-PostTue Jul 13 1993 17:3834
Daniela,

Benutzst Du DECwindows oder character-cell (VT100, usw.) Notes?  In DECwindows
Notes sollst Du Conference->Keywords drucken und von dieser liste das Keyword
"MISSING PERSONS" w�hlen.  Mit character-cell mu�t Du 'SHOW KEYWORD "MISSING -
PERSONS"/FULL' tippen.  Es gibt 33 Noten unter diesem Keyword und in diesem
gibt es vielen hints.

Es gibt auch ein Keyword "JEWISH".  Meisten von diesen Noten sind f�r tote
Leute nicht lebende.

In GENEALOGY gibts auch einige deutsche Ahnenforscher.  Vielleicht k�nnen
sie, besonders Stefan Hofmann, mit der Suche und der �bersetzung auch helfen.

Tsch�� & l'hit,
Gav
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Translation for the German impaired  8^{)  :

Daniela,

Are you using DECwindows or character-cell (VT100, etc.) Notes?  With
DECwindows you select Conference->Keywords and the Keyword "MISSING PERSONS"
With character-cell notes you must type 'SHOW KEYWORD "MISSING PERSONS"/FULL'.
There are 33 notes under this keyword and there are many hints in them.

There is also a Keyword "JEWISH".  Most of these notes are for dead people
not living ones.

There are also a few german researchers in GENEALOGY.  Perhaps one of them,
especially Stefan Hofmann, can also help with the search or translations.

Bye and see you later,
Gav
1346.7Yekkim to the rescue?BOSDCC::CHERSONthe door goes on the rightWed Jul 14 1993 15:387
    re: .0
    
    You can try the Geneology conference(s), etc.  However I will speak to
    my mother-in-law, who is still the "hub" (center) of the German-Jewish
    community in Washington Heights in New York.  
    
    --David
1346.8To AllBERIS3::DGOTTHEINERThu Jul 22 1993 12:2320

it's really unbelievebal, I got the adress.
Uncle Julius died and Helga still lives in Oakland.
I will phone her next time. First I have to choose
the right word's when I phone her, it's a bit
difficult.

BIG THANK'S TO ALL OF YOU, WHO GAVE ME IDEAR'S HOW
TO SEARCH, FIND OUT CONTACT NUMBER'S FOR ME ETC.

If anyone of you, need any information about Germany
or Contact's, don't hesitate to contact me.

Thank you again, bye for now

Daniela Gottheiner @beo



1346.9NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Jul 22 1993 18:191
How did you get the address?
1346.10How I got the adressBERIS3::DGOTTHEINERMon Jul 26 1993 12:0510
I got some vaxmail with some contact adresses like
jewish home of old people in Oakland and some else contact's.
I phoned them, they give me other adresses, I phonend again and
a really nice person from the jewish community of Oakland or
San Francisco (I'am not sure) found the adress and phone
number of my aunt.

regards
Daniela