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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:SMURF::FENSTER
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1524
Total number of notes:18709

1339.0. "Millenium / Millenia" by --UnknownUser-- () Wed May 19 1993 01:04

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1339.1REGENT::BROOMHEADDon't panic -- yet.Tue May 25 1993 20:3914
    "Many Xians cite another date, 4004 BCE.  Does anyone know the derivation
    of this date?  Is it independent of our tradition?"
    
    Back in 1650, Archbishop Usher went through a Bible and, working back
    from some known date or other, using the ages of the Patriarchs and so
    forth, decided that the world had been created in 4004 B.C.  In the
    nineteenth century, one Dr. John Lightfoot carried it further:  "Man
    was created by the Trinity on the twenty-third of October, 4004 B.C.,
    at nine o'clock in the morning."
    
    Never mind that these techniques could not be used to get a good
    division between "B.C." and "A.D.".
    
    						Ann B.
1339.2whatsit?TNPUBS::STEINHARTBack in the high life againWed May 26 1993 00:057
    What is a Xian?  Sounds like a new race out of Startrek.
    
    Actually, that's the name of a Chinese restaurant in Nashua.  Are they
    heavily into Bible studies, with a side of Chinese noodles??
    
    Laura
    
1339.3XianRANGER::GLICKLERWed May 26 1993 00:155
Laura,
	I wondered about this too.  Earlier today a light bulb went on an
I realized that it must stand for Christian.

Sheldon (Shelly)
1339.4XiansTNPUBS::STEINHARTBack in the high life againWed May 26 1993 17:1012
    Thanks Shelly.  A sober answer.  But  Xian as a Startrek race is lots
    more fun!
    
    Weird looking creatures appear in the transporter.  Creature:  "We are
    Xians.  We have been studying the Bible and have new interpretations."
    
    Captain Picard, with a quizzical look: "Please join me in the lounge. 
    We are interested in hearing your interpretations."
    
    :-)
    
    Laura
1339.5more and less than requestedSUBWAY::KABELdoryphoreThu May 27 1993 00:1017
    Actually, Archbishop James Ussher (1581--1656) wrote on page 1 of
    _The Annals of the World_ (published posthumously in 1658): "Which
    beginning of time according to our Chronologie, fell upon the
    entrance of the night preceding the twenty third day of October in
    the year of the Julian calendar, 710." Actually, Ussher wrote in
    Latin, this is a standard translation. Ussher's words, in part, are
    "In ipse primi diei medio creata est lux." The creation took place
    on the 22nd of October, but light was created midday on the 23rd.
    
    Stephen J Gould of Harvard wrote a strong (empassioned?) defense of
    Ussher in his column in the November 1991 issue of the magazine
    _Natural History_. He argues that Ussher applied the best scientific
    dating principles of his day, and that Ussher was doing his part to
    rationalize chronology. Gould writes "Ussher's chronology is a work
    within the generous and liberal tradition of humanistic scholarship,
    not a restrictive document written to impose authority."