| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
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| 1270.1 | A dreidel it is! | WILBRY::WASSERMAN | Deb Wasserman, DTN 264-1863 | Mon Oct 26 1992 18:46 | 5 | 
|  |     Yup, sounds like a dreidle to me (pronouned dray-dle).  It's a
    traditional toy used on Chanukah.  It has four sides, with one
    Hebrew letter on each side.  It's used to play a game whereby you spin
    the dreidel and depending on which letter it lands on, different things
    happen (maybe someone can post the actual rules).
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| 1270.2 |  | GOOEY::GVRIEL::SCHOELLER | Calendars & Notepads R me | Mon Oct 26 1992 23:56 | 15 | 
|  | The letters are:
Nun, Gimel, Heh, Shin
The "traditional" explanation is that they are for "Nes gadol Hayah sham",
"a great miracle happened there".  However, a cursory knowlege of Yiddish
and a little history makes it clear that these letters are for the actions
taken and the "meaning" was added later. 
Nun = nit = nothing
Gimel = gans = everything
Heh = halb = half
Shin = shtel = place
Gav
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| 1270.3 | from the English-speaking chachamim | ERICG::ERICG | Eric Goldstein | Wed Oct 28 1992 15:11 | 16 | 
|  | .2>                                    However, a cursory knowlege of Yiddish
.2> and a little history makes it clear that these letters are for the actions
.2> taken and the "meaning" was added later. 
.2>
.2> Nun = nit = nothing
.2> Gimel = gans = everything
.2> Heh = halb = half
.2> Shin = shtel = place
For those whose Yiddish is as weak as mine, the following may be easier to
remember:
nun    - nothing
gimmel - Gimme!
heh    - half
shin   - Shit!
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| 1270.4 | der ganse megillah | TNPUBS::STEINHART | Laura | Wed Oct 28 1992 15:49 | 11 | 
|  |     RE:  -1
    
    Thank you so much for this list.  It is easy to remember.
    
    Actually I like "gans" for gimel.  After our previous rabbi insisted on
    reading the ganse megillah - for real! - on a weekday night Purim with
    dozens of overcharged, overtired kids milling around, the word gans has
    a very vivid meaning for me. :-)
    
    L
    
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| 1270.5 | more dreidal | MR4DEC::RICH |  | Wed Oct 28 1992 20:23 | 8 | 
|  |     Two short points. Gans in German means goose. Ganz means all or the
    "whole thing".
    
    In Israel they say Nes Gadol Haya Po ( A great miracle happened HERE)
    vs Nes Gadol Haya SHam (a great miracle happeded THERE) and I believe
    Israeli dreidals (dreidlot?) have a peh instead of a shin.
    
    Neil
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| 1270.6 |  | GOOEY::GVRIEL::SCHOELLER | Calendars & Notepads R me | Wed Oct 28 1992 20:37 | 13 | 
|  | Ich spreche sehr gut Deutsch.  Aber man mu� erinnern, zwei Dinge.  1. J�disch
ist nicht Deutsch und es gibt kleine Unterschiede zwischen die Aussprachen der
zwei Sprachen.  2. Um J�disch in Englisch zu transkribieren benutzt man normale-
weise die deutsche Buchstabierung nicht.  8^{)
And in English:
I can speak German quite well.  But one must remember 2 things.  1.  Yiddish
is not German and there are slight differences in pronunciation between the
two languages.  2.  You don't normally use the German spellings when
transliterating from Yiddish to English.
Gav
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