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| Title: | BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest |
| Notice: | 1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration |
| Moderator: | SMURF::FENSTER |
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| Created: | Mon Feb 03 1986 |
| Last Modified: | Thu Jun 05 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 1524 |
| Total number of notes: | 18709 |
1264.0. "DEC's Lack of Sensitivity for Jews" by EMIRFI::SEGAL (Len Segal, MLO6-1/U30, 223-7687) Fri Sep 25 1992 16:26
From: LESREG::SEGAL "Len, 223-7687, MLO6-1/U30 25-Sep-1992 0854" 25-SEP-1992 09:00:28.86
To: ICS::POMIANSKY
CC: HUBIE::ETHERRIEN,SEGAL
Subj: DEC's Insensitivity (Valuing Differences) on Ken's Farewell Party
Wayne,
Once again DEC shows it's total insensitivity to the DEC Jewish
population!! Planning Ken's farewell "party" on one of the 3 most
Holy days in the Jewish religion is the ultimate "slap-in-the face",
and again shows DEC's true stripes regarding "valuing differences".
Almost every year DEC plans a major event (usually DECWorld) on one
of the major Jewish Holidays, and each time this is pointed out DEC
apologizes and promises "not to do it again". It doesn't take a lot
of effort to check a calendar and ask someone of the Jewish faith
prior to setting important DEC events, but in my 12+ years at DEC it
has become quite obvious that this is too much to expect from our
Company.
As an engineer that has worked 11 years in the Mill and has had the
privilege of chatting with Ken a few times in the past, I am deeply
insulted that DEC has made it impossible for me to say goodbye to
Ken. I have the utmost respect for Ken, and I am sure that he would
be appalled if he were to know that his "party" was being held on the
Jewish New Year.
Although I seriously doubt that anyone will pay attention to it, I am
attaching a copy of a recent MAIL message which lists the Jewish
Holidays through 1999 and includes a brief description of each
holiday. [You may note that numerous people in Personnel were copied
on the attached MAIL. This proves my point that Personnel doesn't
"truly" value differences!]
Len Segal
From: NAME: STEINHART <STEINHART@TNPUBS@USCTR1@MRGATE@USCTR1@MRO>
Date: 15-Sep-1992
Posted-date: 15-Sep-1992
Precedence: 1
Subject: Jewish holidays calendar. OK to distribute as you see fit.
To: PROCTOR.BARCY@A1
The Major Jewish Holy Days
Digital's Jewish VoD Group knows that our holy days, which follow an
adjusted lunar calendar, can be confusing. We provide this
information to reference when you schedule Digital events.
Sometimes staff events or business functions have been scheduled at
times when Jewish employees or customers haven't been able to attend.
Perhaps this calendar can prevent such oversights.
As in many cultures, not all Jews observe the major holy days or the
Sabbath. However, their observance is extremely important to those
who do observe them. Please ask people and respect the needs of those
who are bound by religious obligations.
Holy days and the Sabbath (Saturday) begin at sunset of the preceding
common calendar day and end about an hour after sunset of the following
day. An observant Jew may not travel on a holy day or on the Sabbath
and must allow travel time from work to reach home 20 minutes before
sunset. In New England sunset varies from about 3:45 pm in December to
about 8 pm in July.
The description of the holy days below follows their sequence through
the common year (January to December). Specific holy day dates from
1992 to 1997 are also attached for your information. The holy days do
not occur on the same day of the common calendar each year because the
Jewish year is based on a lunar calendar, in which the month begins
with the new moon.
Chanukah is not a major holy day and has no work or travel
restrictions.
Condensed Guide to the Jewish Holy Days
PASSOVER (PESACH) - Commemorates the Exodus of the Jewish people from
ancient Egypt. Special dietary restrictions begin the morning of the
previous day and continue for eight days. The SEDER, a family or
communal meal and ritual, is conducted with family and friends the
first two evenings. The first two and last two days of Passover are
holy days.
PENTECOST (SHAVUOT) - Celebrates the giving of the Torah (law) and Ten
Commandments to the Jews at Mt. Sinai.
JEWISH NEW YEAR (ROSH HASHONAH) - A two-day observance that starts the
High Holy Days season. It includes extended synagogue services.
DAY OF ATONEMENT (YOM KIPPUR) - Fast day and extended synagogue
services, with many special prayers.
FEAST OF BOOTHS (SUKKOT) - Commemorates the Jewish people's wanderings
in the desert. Meals are eaten in the SUKKAH, a special temporary
festival hut. The first two days of Sukkot are holy days.
EIGHTH DAY OF ASSEMBLY (SHEMINI ATZERET) AND REJOICING IN THE TORAH
(SIMHAT TORAH) - Special two-day celebration closing the High Holy
Days season that began on Rosh Hashonah.
1992 Major Jewish Holy Days
Sa Apr 18 Passover, 1st day M Sep 28 New Year (5753), 1st day
S Apr 19 Passover, 2nd day T Sep 29 New Year, 2nd day
F Apr 24 Passover, 7th day W Oct 7 Day of Atonement
Sa Apr 25 Passover, 8th day M Oct 12 Feast of Booths, 1st day
S Jun 7 Pentecost, 1st day T Oct 13 Feast of Booths, 2nd day
M Jun 8 Pentecost, 2nd day M Oct 19 Eighth Day of Assembly
T Oct 20 Rejoicing in the Torah
1993 Major Jewish Holy Days
T Apr 6 Passover, 1st day Th Sep 16 New Year (5754), 1st day
W Apr 7 Passover, 2nd day F Sep 17 New Year, 2nd day
M Apr 12 Passover, 7th day Sa Sep 25 Day of Atonement
T Apr 13 Passover, 8th day Th Sep 30 Feast of Booths, 1st day
W May 26 Pentecost, 1st day F Oct 1 Feast of Booths, 2nd day
Th May 27 Pentecost, 2nd day Th Oct 7 Eighth Day of Assembly
F Oct 8 Rejoicing in the Torah
1994 Major Jewish Holy Days
S Mar 27 Passover, 1st day T Sep 6 New Year (5755), 1st day
M Mar 28 Passover, 2nd day W Sep 7 New Year, 2nd day
Sa Apr 2 Passover, 7th day Th Sep 15 Day of Atonement
S Apr 3 Passover, 8th day T Sep 20 Feast of Booths, 1st day
M May 16 Pentecost, 1st day W Sep 21 Feast of Booths, 2nd day
T May 17 Pentecost, 2nd day T Sep 27 Eighth Day of Assembly
W Sep 28 Rejoicing in the Torah
1995 Major Jewish Holy Days
Sa Apr 15 Passover, 1st day M Sep 25 New Year (5756), 1st day
S Apr 16 Passover, 2nd day T Sep 26 New Year, 2nd day
F Apr 21 Passover, 7th day W Oct 4 Day of Atonement
Sa Apr 22 Passover, 8th day M Oct 9 Feast of Booths, 1st day
S Jun 4 Pentecost, 1st day T Oct 10 Feast of Booths, 2nd day
M Jun 5 Pentecost, 2nd day M Oct 16 Eighth Day of Assembly
T Oct 17 Rejoicing in the Torah
1996 Major Jewish Holy Days
Th Apr 4 Passover, 1st day Sa Sep 14 New Year (5757), 1st day
F Apr 5 Passover, 2nd day S Sep 15 New Year, 2nd day
W Apr 10 Passover, 7th day M Sep 23 Day of Atonement
Th Apr 11 Passover, 8th day Sa Sep 28 Feast of Booths, 1st day
F May 24 Pentecost, 1st day S Sep 29 Feast of Booths, 2nd day
Sa Sep 25 Pentecost, 2nd day Sa Oct 5 Eighth Day of Assembly
S Oct 6 Rejoicing in the Torah
1997 Major Jewish Holy Days
T Apr 22 Passover, 1st day Th Oct 2 New Year (5758), 1st day
W Apr 23 Passover, 2nd day F Oct 3 New Year, 2nd day
M Apr 28 Passover, 7th day S Oct 11 Day of Atonement
T Apr 29 Passover, 8th day Th Oct 16 Feast of Booths, 1st day
W Jun 11 Pentecost, 1st day F Sep 17 Feast of Booths, 2nd day
Th Jun 12 Pentecost, 2nd day Th Oct 23 Eighth Day of Assembly
F Oct 24 Rejoicing in the Torah
1998 Major Jewish Holy Days
Sa Apr 11 Passover, 1st day M Sep 21 New Year (5759), 1st day
S Apr 12 Passover, 2nd day T Sep 22 New Year, 2nd day
F Apr 17 Passover, 7th day W Sep 30 Day of Atonement
Sa Apr 18 Passover, 8th day M Oct 5 Feast of Booths, 1st day
S May 31 Pentecost, 1st day T Oct 6 Feast of Booths, 2nd day
M Jun 1 Pentecost, 2nd day M Oct 12 Eighth Day of Assembly
T Oct 13 Rejoicing in the Torah
1999 Major Jewish Holy Days
Th Apr 1 Passover, 1st day Sa Sep 11 New Year (5760), 1st day
F Apr 2 Passover, 2nd day S Sep 12 New Year, 2nd day
W Apr 7 Passover, 7th day M Sep 20 Day of Atonement
Th Apr 8 Passover, 8th day Sa Sep 25 Feast of Booths, 1st day
F May 21 Pentecost, 1st day S Sep 26 Feast of Booths, 2nd day
Sa May 22 Pentecost, 2nd day Sa Oct 2 Eighth Day of Assembly
S Oct 3 Rejoicing in the Torah
Thank you for your consideration,
The Jewish Constituency Group
To Distribution List:
ANNETTE ALBRIGHT @MSO,
NAME: Allan Csiky @MSO <CSIKY.ALLAN AT A1 at ICS at PKO>,
NAME: BRUCE DAVIDSON <DAVIDSON.BRUCE AT A1 at ICS at PKO>,
NAME: LAURIE MARGOLIES <MARGOLIES.LAURIE AT A1 at ICS at PKO>,
NAME: JOHN MURPHY <MURPHY.JOHN AT A1 at ICS at PKO>,
JOSE RAMIREZ @MSO,
HENRY BURNETT @MSO,
cromwell@ics@vmsmail,
BARBARA LATIMER @MSO,
JAY PALERMO @MSO
To Distribution List:
MARTHA ADAMOVICH @NQO,
ANDERSON_E @SALEM@VAXMAIL,
CATHY CAPPETTA @MKO,
CJOHNSON @STEREO@VAXMAIL,
LYNDA GIANOPOULOS @DDD,
HASTY_MIKE @DNEAST@VAXMAIL,
HERNANDEZ_MA @DNEAST@VAXMAIL,
MCCOY @ZEKE@VAXMAIL,
PETHERBRIDGE @BTOVT@VAXMAIL,
SEPE @WECARE@VAXMAIL,
JOANNE STERLING @ZKO,
COPE @SALEM@VAXMAIL,
DUGUAY @SALEM@VAXMAIL,
GRIFFIN @SALEM@VAXMAIL,
KKELEHER @SALEM@VAXMAIL,
KMORRIS @SALEM@VAXMAIL,
OSMER @SALEM@VAXMAIL,
PURDY @SALEM@VAXMAIL,
ANDREA SINCLAIR @NIO,
WORMALD @SALEM@VAXMAIL
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| 1264.1 | Personnel Memo on Ken's Farewell Party | SEGAL::SEGAL | Len Segal, MLO6-1/U30, 223-7687 | Fri Sep 25 1992 16:48 | 104 |
| The following memo from Personnel is what spawned my scathing memo to
the authors of the attached memo. It never ceases to amaze me the
amount of lip service we pay to Valuing DIfferences, but the
follow-through (at least to those of the Jewish faith) is always
lacking. [For new-comers, there are numerous Notes here about
DECWorld/DECVille, etc. falling on Passover and the High Holidays,
almost every year that they are run.]
Happy New Year to all Bagelers and their Families,
Len Segal
P.S. I forwarded the previous MAIL to Ann Jenkins as well (Ken's
Secretary).
From: HUBIE::ETHERRIEN "MILL SITE EMPLOYEE RELATIONS / 223-9250 23-Sep-1992 1612" 23-SEP-1992 16:43:40.91
Subj: FAREWELL GATHERING FOR KEN OLSEN
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INTEROFFICE MEMORANDUM
DATE: 23 SEP 92
FROM: Wayne Pomiansky
DTN: 223-3263
NODE: ICS::POMIANSKY
MS: MLO3-4/E95
TO: All Mill Site Managers
SUBJ: FAREWELL GATHERING FOR KEN OLSEN
Please foward the attached memo throughout your organizations as
quickly as possible to accommodate all who would like to attend
the September 29th farewell event.
Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
Wayne Pomiansky, Manager
Mill Site Personnel Operations
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INTEROFFICE MEMORANDUM
DATE: 23 SEP 92
FROM: Wayne Pomiansky
DTN: 223-3263
NODE: ICS::POMIANSKY
MS: MLO3-4/E95
TO: All Mill Site Employees
SUBJ: FAREWELL GATHERING FOR KEN OLSEN
After 37 years as Founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer,
Ken Olsen will be retiring from Digital on September 30th. He leaves
behind him an unprecedented legacy to the computer industry and to our
Company. As we all know, Ken started Digital here at the Mill and
led the Company to its position as the second largest computer corporation
in the world.
Before he leaves the Mill to take up residence in Stow, an informal
opportunity is being provided specifically for Mill site employees to
wish Ken well in a personal way. This event will take place in the
cafeteria on Tuesday, September 29th, beginning at 2:15 p.m. and will
last for about 45 minutes. All MLO employees are cordially invited to
participate.
Looking forward to seeing you there!!
Wayne Pomiansky, Manager
Mill Site Personnel Operations
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| 1264.2 | May be easier in the future | MR4DEC::RICH | | Fri Sep 25 1992 19:25 | 22 |
| I just attended a meeting that discussed the possibility of a corporate
wide events strategy and calendar. In the last four or five years,
nothing even close to this has existed. If and when this occurs, it
will be much easier to sanity check events not just conflicting with
OUR calendar needs, but those of other groups as well.
There are at least a 1000 events of one kind or another planned at DEC
every year (this is not hyberbole). Don't assume that people go out of
their way to be insensitive. Most of it is ignorance or lack of time.
We need to be more pro-active and check dates ourselves. Ever called a
meeting on ASH Wednesday? or the start of RAMADAN? Ever schedule an
event where there was no alternative to a meat course for the
vegitarians in the group? Ever vollunteer to cover work for someone on
GOOD FRIDAY?
With a strategy and calendar of ALL coroporate events, we will
hopefully have enough lead time to meet all of the needs of our
corporate colleagues and our customers too. (remember DECWorld on
High Hollidays makes it tough on Jewish customers too)
Neil
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| 1264.3 | Foresight clear as mud | CSCMA::GILDER | | Fri Sep 25 1992 19:43 | 13 |
| I have the highest regard for KO and Ann Jenkins. Neither one is
brainless. Rosh Hashanah is listed on our Desk Calendars. As far as
KO being appalled if he knew, that's something different.
It is my understanding that many of the Jewish employees only take the
one day off as opposed to the two.
I agree the arranger of the gathering should have planned better.
I think it's sad that we who don't work at the Mill have the
opportunity to say good bye.
me
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| 1264.4 | | NOTIME::SACKS | Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085 | Fri Sep 25 1992 20:27 | 4 |
| re .3:
Only one day is listed on both of my DEC-issue calendars. Of course, that's
no excuse.
|
| 1264.5 | | NAC::OFSEVIT | card-carrying member | Fri Sep 25 1992 22:59 | 66 |
| Folks,
I've been discussing this with a few people on the Jewish
Constituency Group today. Opinions on what to do are all over the map;
a number of flame-o-grams (as well as tactful messages), supporting Len
and dumping on whoever screwed this up, have been composed and
discarded already.
Apparently some people in the Mill who were responsible for this
event have been informed that they goofed, and they feel bad about it
and are much less likely to do it again. It seems to have been a
genuine error of omission, more a matter of lack of information rather
than insensitivity. As you can see in the attached memo, a notice did
go out, but too late to save the current problem.
The Jewish Constituency Group has no hierarchy or spokespeople, so
the following is strictly my opinion: The KO party, however much
people would like to attend it, is not a mandatory business meeting
which will cause damage to the job of somebody who misses it. We don't
know whether the incidence of meetings scheduled on the holidays is up
or down this year, but it is worth noting that Len's message included
the holiday schedule that was published a few months ago. You can look
at it that the activity of the group has at least helped empower Len to
send the memo. Therefore, I'm not going to send *my* flame-o-gram, but
I'm going to keep my antennae tuned for what happens next.
And, on that note, l'shanah tovah tikatavu to all, and if I have
offended you knowingly or unknowingly, please forgive me.
David
--------------------
From: NAME: RON GLOVER
FUNC: Corporate Employee Relations
TEL: 508-493-9569 <GLOVER.RON AT A1 at ICS at PKO>
Date: 24-Sep-1992
Posted-date: 24-Sep-1992
Precedence: 1
Subject: Holidays 1
To: See Below
In the interest of Valuing Diversity and good Employee Relations, I
would like to encourage you to remember the significant religious
cultural holidays and celebrations that occur throughout the year for
our employees. It makes sense that a role we play with line managers
is to help them understand the significance of these and to be
sensitive to when holidays fall and what they mean.
Next week marks the beginning of the Jewish High Holiday season. Rosh
Hashanah, the Jewish New Year, is a two-day observance which includes
extended synagogue services and begins Sunday evening.
Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, begins at sundown on October 6th and
is a one day holiday, including a fast and extended synagogue services.
As in many cultures, not all Jews observe the major holy days nor do
all observe them the same way; however, I do urge you to ask your
managers to respect these days and not require presence, or plan
significant meetings or trips that would affect those who are committed
to these days.
As the year continues, the U.S. diversity calendar will describe days
such as these to assist you and your management teams.
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| 1264.6 | Worse Yet...Planner IS Jewish and Knew of Conflict!! | EMIRFI::SEGAL | Len Segal, MLO6-1/U30, 223-7687 | Sat Sep 26 1992 00:34 | 16 |
| To make matters worse, the author of the memo in .1 IS JEWISH. He
sent me MAIL today advising me that he had consulted another person
(an observant Jew) and decided to go with the 29th anyway!! Wayne's
excuse was that there was tight scheduling and he was attempting to
minimize any inconvenience to Ken!
Wayne's reply only served to make me angrier. It's one thing to
unintentionally (by ignorance) plan a "one-of-a-kind" event for Rosh
Hashanah, but it is unforgivable to do so in full knowledge of this
conflict.
We are our own worst enemies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy New Year to All,
Len
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| 1264.7 | | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Mon Sep 28 1992 14:35 | 1 |
| Based on .6, I would suggest that the title of this topic be changed...
|