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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:SMURF::FENSTER
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1524
Total number of notes:18709

1030.0. "messages of safety to loved ones" by USWS1::GRANT (Live free or WISH you had.) Tue Jan 22 1991 01:54

i have never before participated in this notesfile, but the current events 
make me want to say something, do something, however small, for the people 
of israel.  my thoughts and prayers are with you as the world holds its 
breath, dreading the atrocities which SH is capable of.

we can all hope and pray that there will be no more bombs, no more deaths, 
but the hope is small, the likelihood high.  i sit here, helplessly on the 
west coast of the U.S., struck by how little i risk, compared to those of
you sitting in dread of the promised attacks.

if, G*d forbid, more bombs should fall, not only do you suffer, but family 
and friends who do not know if you are safe also suffer.  i cannot stop the 
bombs, but i can let those you love know that you are alright.  if, at any 
time, you would like to convey a message to someone on the west coast of the 
U.S. (anywhere in the U.S., actually) that you are safe, i would be happy to
convey that for you.  just send me the name and number of your loved one,
with a message and i will call them and deliver it. i can be reached at
either this node or gilroy::grant.  i will also return any messages they may 
have for you.

i should say that i am not a jew, but a christian.  only recently have i 
come to any true understanding of what the state of israel means.  i can 
never completely understand.  but, through the interactions with a very wise 
jewish man, the difference has become less inscrutable.  and the respect and 
admiration profound.

may G*d bless and keep you,

gail grant
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1030.1Me, too; me, too!SWAM2::GOLDMAN_MALife is an art form; be creative!Wed Jan 23 1991 07:0916
    Good for you, Gail!  Wish I'd thought of it, but I'll settle for riding
    on your coattails...
    
    I, too, will make calls or send messages, whatever works.  Reach me at
    SWAM2::GOLDMAN_MA, or if the gateways give you trouble, try it as
    CAPO::GOLDMAN_MA.
    
    My prayers are with all of you in Israel, with our soldiers in the Gulf
    (a number of whom are personal friends...) and with all of the other
    innocents being battered by this war.  
    
    If there are other things that I could do to help my fellow DECies (and
    their friends/family/neighbors, too -- I'll make calls for any Israeli,
    if I can!) please let me know that, too...
    
    Marla Goldman, Costa Mesa, Calif.
1030.2Northern NJNYEM1::MILBERGI was a DCC - 3 jobs ago!Wed Jan 23 1991 14:3014
    Let me repeat my offer (as it was in one of the other topics that got
    'closed down') for the Northern New Jersey (Union, Essex and Morris
    county areas).
    
    I also have hf ham gear (pardon the expression) and am willing to set
    up schedules and phone patches.
    
    	Barry
    
    	NYEM1::MILBERG
    	PCOJCT::MILBERG
    
    
    
1030.3Boston tooICS::WAKYOnward, thru the Fog...Wed Jan 23 1991 18:388
I'll be glad to call folks in the greater Boston/mid Massashusetts area.

Send mail to ICS::Waky with details.

Hang in there - I'm thinking of you every waking minute (and, unfortunately
for my ability to concentrate at work some non-waking minutes as well!) -

Waky
1030.4Phone Number NeededSWAM2::PLAUT_MIWed Jan 23 1991 21:0417
    I have an aunt living in Ramat Gan that I would like to contact. 
    However, I don't have her phone number.  Could someone in Israel please
    provide me with a phone number for:
    
    Mrs. Zwi (Sara) Plaut  - perhaps spelled Pe, Lamid, Vov, Tov
    34 Rashi Street
    Ramat Gan
    
    Email to MILT PLAUT @LAS or SRFSUP::PLAUT
    
    I am concerned because of yesterday's missle explosion in Ramat Gan. 
    Thank you all for your help.  May yesterday's attack be the last on
    Israel and may we give SH what he deserves quickly and with a minimum
    of casualties.  My thoughts and prayers are with you.
    
    Milt Plaut
    
1030.5count me in - NYC areaSUBWAY::RAYMANBIG Louuuuuuuu - PW Comm MeisterWed Jan 23 1991 22:135
I'll be glad to relay messages to people in the NY area.

contact me at SUBWAY::RAYMAN or PWATCH::RAYMAN

"Hashem Oz Le'Amo yeten, Hachem yivarech et Amo Bashalom"
1030.6Los AngelesSWAM2::PLAUT_MIThu Jan 24 1991 00:037
    I would be pleased to forward messages to anyone in the Los Angeles
    area.  Contact met at:
    
    MILT PLAUT @LAS  or
    SRFSUP::PLAUT
    
    
1030.7Me too for the GMA, Boston to Worcester AreaWHYNOW::NEWMANWhat, me worry? YOU BET!Thu Jan 24 1991 04:468
    Count me in for relaying messages to people in the Greater Maynard,
    Boston to Worcester, Massachusetts area.
    
    Send particulars to   WHYNOW::NEWMAN
    
    Take care and be careful...
    
    Bob Newman
1030.8Willing to Relay Msgs in Mass AreaAMELIA::SEGALLen Segal, MLO6-1/U30, 223-7687Thu Jan 24 1991 05:267
     I'll relay  messages  from our Israeli brethren to friends and loved
     ones in the  Massachusetts area.  Just send the particulars to me at
     LESREG::SEGAL.
     
     Take care and may G_d keep you and your friends/Family safe.
     
     Len Segal
1030.9RE: 1030.4JEREMY::EYALEyal YatskanThu Jan 24 1991 10:062
    Reply to 1030.4
    They are all OK and their number is 03-7527461 or 052-502017
1030.10Balto/DCMAMTS2::AFRYDMANThu Jan 24 1991 17:025
    I'll take the Baltimore/Washington,DC area.
    
    Granpa::Afrydman
    
    Av
1030.11Thanks - Good News - re .4SWAM2::PLAUT_MIThu Jan 24 1991 18:4512
    re .4
    
    Thank you all for helping me to track down my aunt.  Through your
    efforts I have found out that her neighborhood was not near the SCUD
    impact area and that she is safe and staying with one of her sons in
    Herzlia.  I wanted to shre this good news with you so that you can
    share in my nachas as well.
    
    Shalom,
    
    Milt
    
1030.12Boston/New Hampshire area VolunteerVAXWRK::EPSTEINSara Epstein - Star Fleet ReservationsThu Jan 24 1991 20:575
I'll also sign up for the Boston area (if you need New Hampshire, 
I'll take that too).

Sara 
VAXWRK::EPSTEIN
1030.13Central and Southern Jersey contactSUBWAY::REISCHERThu Jan 24 1991 21:078
    Central and Southern New Jersey checking in. Contact me at
    subway::reischer with any messages that need to be relayed. 
    
    It may be quiet, b"h, over there for now, but our prayers are as loud
    and fervent as before. Kol Tuv.
    
    Ephraim
    
1030.14New EnglandTUNER::COPPERSMITHSYSTEM-W-RELFLT, reality faultThu Jan 24 1991 23:423
    I can help with New England.
    
    CJ Coppersmith
1030.15San Francisco/South Bay AreaUSWRSL::THOMPSON_SUFri Jan 25 1991 02:495
    I will call San Francisco/South Bay area.
    
    USWRSL::THOMPSON_SU
    
    Suzanne (Shoshana)
1030.16New England or where neededKOALA::GRAFFFri Jan 25 1991 05:497
    I'll make phone calls too.  I live in Boston, work in New Hampshire.
    But will make calls wherever needed.
    
    Glad to be able to do anything.  
    
    --Joyce Graff
      Brookline, Massachusetts
1030.17New HampshireSALEM::KARLSBERGFri Jan 25 1991 15:515
    
    I'd be more than willing to make calls for New Hampshire.
    
    Al Karlsberg
    Nashua, N.H.
1030.18Connecticut CallsCTOAVX::SCHOOLNIKFri Jan 25 1991 16:144
    I'll be happy to cover any calls in Connecticut.
   Reach me either @RCH or ctoavx::SCHOOLNIK.
    
    Wynn
1030.19I'll do New EnglandWHELIN::FROLICHFri Jan 25 1991 22:538
    I'll be happy to do New England.
    
    I can be located at DTN: 291-0157 and/or GAMBLN::Frolich.
    
    Shalom
    
    Bob
    
1030.20ACESMK::FRANCUSMets in '91Mon Jan 28 1991 19:199
    I'll help out with New England/New York and any places not covered.
    With my phone bill to family in Israel the last week, long distance
    calls will be barely noticeable :-(
    
    metsny::francus
    acesmk::francus
    
    yoseff
    
1030.21I hope you understand what I'm trying to sayRTOIC::WERBUNGTue Jan 29 1991 16:5822
    Calling all people in Israel:
    I would like to express my feelings for those people in Israel and I
    hope, since I'm here in Germany, that you guys are not upset, because
    of everything that is heard in the news about Germany at the moment.
    With this note, I really wanted you to know,  that everybody I know and
    everybody I could ever think of   here in Germany is really thinking
    about all the problems that you guys down there might have (hopefully
    not) The people that were demonstrating against the war were sure also
    not the ones, who wouldn't take Israels side, but were only scared of
    all the consequences that the war would cause, a lot of them were kids,
    who might not have been aware of the strategic and political situation
    in Gulf region. 
    On behalf of all my friends, I would like you to know, that we hope,
    that our governement's help will be very efficient and helpful for you,
    and that we are all pleased, that help was offered and accepted.
    And we know, that it should have been offered a lot earlier, but the
    majority of us sure had no influence on this decision.
    
    We wish you and everybody out there a happy end    and   peace
    
    Shalom from Pia
    
1030.22Comparing costsSQGUK::LEVYThe BloodhoundWed Jan 30 1991 17:0814
I'm interested to know what it costs Israel to protect her population 
from German supplied weapons and technology that were supplied to Iraq. 

I'd also interested to know much aid Germany has offered Israel and how
this compares to the above cost. 

I understand that scud missiles would not be able to reach Israel without
the technical assistance of German companys, and that the chemical and 
biological weapons were developed with the assistance of German companys too. 

Of course, measuring the traumatic costs on the whole of the population 
is very difficult.

Malcolm 
1030.23"Old" England and the ContinentENVIR::STEINBERGERWed Jan 30 1991 19:2310
Hi,


If anyone is having trouble reaching the U.K. or "The Continent" from Israel, 
please feel free to contact me at SQMUK::STEINBERGER, and I'll be happy to 
pass along any messages to the folks in the "Old World" (but not the 
"oldest"   :^).


ed
1030.24ACESMK::FRANCUSMets in '91Wed Jan 30 1991 23:368
    re: .22
    
    It is my understanding that as far as extending the range of the
    missiles the technology was from France, which is also where Iraq got
    the Exocet missiles. 
    
    yoseff
    
1030.25WHO SHOULD BE PUNISHED ?????RTOIC::WERBUNGThu Jan 31 1991 10:2313
    RE: 22,
    
    RIGHT, THERE MIGHT NOT BE A COMPARISON....
    (RE: .22/.24)
    FRANCE AND GERMANY, BUT ALSO THE U.S. IN THE IRAK/IRAN WAR...   ????
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WERE SUPPORTERS.
    
    NO MATTER, WHO IT WAS, FOR THE EUROPEANS IT'S ABSOLUTELY EMBARRASING
    AND SHOCKING, THAT WE ARE SORT OF RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
    AND I HATE TO SAY I'M GERMAN THESE DAY, I REALLY DO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    MAYBE, I ALWAYS HATED IT
1030.26WHO ELSE ???RTOIC::WERBUNGThu Jan 31 1991 10:572
    AND SH'S PLASTIC TANKS ARE MADE IN ITALY................
    
1030.27Atlantic Provinces, CanadaHXOU01::MACDONALDCareful Jim,those teeth are sharpFri Feb 01 1991 16:057
    
    I'll help out with the Canadian provinces of Nova Scotia, P.E.I.,
    Newfoundland and New Brunswick (Atlantic Provinces).

    hxou01::macdonald
    
    Grant MacDonald
1030.28Down southSHALOT::GELBERtaken by a photograph of you . . .Mon Feb 04 1991 15:295
I'll do what I can here in the North Carolina/South Carolina area.

Edie

SHALOT::GELBER