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983.1 | yontiff = yom tov = holiday | SUBWAY::RAYMAN | one of the usual suspects... | Mon Oct 01 1990 18:59 | 7 |
| the hebrew word for holiday is "Yom Tov" (lit "good day")
yontiff is the yiddish pronounciation, a corruption of the original.
good yontiff!
Louuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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983.2 | standard holiday greeting | CADSYS::HECTOR::RICHARDSON | | Mon Oct 01 1990 19:00 | 4 |
| It's from "Yom Tov", meaning a holiday (yom = day, tov = good). So it
is basically "happy holiday".
/Charlotte
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983.3 | who was that : man? woman? | TUNER::COHEN | | Mon Oct 01 1990 20:17 | 7 |
| re .1
Are you saying that someone would replace a [mem] with
a [nuen] and change an entire base word. must be some
heretic!!
Roland
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983.4 | Slight change of language | YOUNG::YOUNG | | Tue Oct 02 1990 00:25 | 12 |
| Re: .3
What's even worse is when they take Yom and completely change it to
Holy, then translate Tov as Day, and get Holiday by changing the vowel.
But, I guess when you change the language, as from Hebrew to Yiddish or
English the sound may change a bit.
(and only two days ago I was repenting for my cynicism?)
Paul
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983.5 | set bad_joke follows | NYEM1::MILBERG | I was a DCC - 3 jobs ago! | Tue Oct 02 1990 03:31 | 11 |
| Of course, there is always the derivation of the phrase that goes:
What would you say to the Pope on Yom Kippur?
Good Yontiff, Pontiff!
I couldn't resist....
-Barry-
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983.6 | another level | TAV02::FEINBERG | Don Feinberg | Tue Oct 02 1990 13:54 | 8 |
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Can't resist two more cents...
Of course, it isn't "good yunteff". It really should be
"gut yunteff", if you want it in Yiddish. The "good yunteff"
is an American (I think) derivative.
don
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983.7 | | BOLT::MINOW | Cheap, fast, good; choose two | Thu Oct 04 1990 18:58 | 5 |
| If I may put on my linguist's hat for a moment, "m t" -> "n t" is
a prefectly natural sound change, especially for a primarily spoken
language. It's hardly a "corruption."
Martin.
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983.8 | authorless notes... | SLSTRN::RADWIN | I think, fer sure | Tue Oct 09 1990 17:07 | 10 |
| >> <<< Note 983.0 by >>>
>> -< Meaning of "Yontiff" >-
re base note:
isn't there a policy against including notes that don't have
an author/node listed?
Gene
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983.9 | VAXNOTES normal behavior | CLT::CLTMAX::dick | Schoeller - Failed Xperiment | Tue Oct 09 1990 18:29 | 12 |
| Gene,
That's the way NOTES works. If you delete a base note an empty one with no
author and the same title as the original is created in its place. That is
because the file format of the conference file requires there to be a base
note. If there were a real note there, there is no way (without doing some
tricks and having an account on TAVENG) to take the author string off of the
note.
I am not sure why the author thought it was necessary to delete the base note.
Gav
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