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| 850.1 | | GAON::jem | Help!! The paranoids are after me! | Tue Dec 12 1989 13:24 | 17 |
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This issue is dealt with extensively in the _Shulchan Aruch_, the code of
Jewish law, in Orach Chaim, I believe in chap. 50. Every variety of Kaddish
is considered extremely important, more "holy" in some respects than the
_Kedusha_ (recited by the congregation during the repetition of the _Amida_)
itself, in some respects. The central part of the Kaddish is the response,
"May His great Name be blessed forever and ever." The Talmud states that
one's sins may be erased if he recites this sentence with great concentration.
To the best of my recollection, almost all authorities agree that the congre-
gation is required to stand at least through this response. They differ
as to whether it is permissible to sit immediately afterwards, after "brich
Hu", or after "da'amiran be'alema ve'imeru amen", at which point the actual
Kaddish ends, and various addenda are added for divers occasions.
Jem
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| 850.2 | Stand up and be counted ... | TAVENG::CHAIM | Semper ubi Sub ubi ..... | Wed Dec 13 1989 03:07 | 61 |
| There are very varying oppinions regarding whether one MUST stand during the
reciting of Kadish or the repetition of the Amidah (of course this refers to
the Tzibur who is listening -- it goes without saying that the person reciting
either of these MUST stand). With perhaps one exception, and this is with
regard to the Kadish which is recited directly following the Tachanun in which
case the Rambam seems to state that the Tzibur should remain seated, no
authority REQUIRES sitting. The question is whether it is required to stand.
Kadish:
Most authorities are of the oppinion that it is not required to stand during
the reciting. However, if one IS already standing, then he/she should NOT sit
down. In other words according to this view, one is not required to stand up
specially for the recitation.
There are, of course, other authorities who place the Kadish in the category of
a "Davar She'bikdusha" which then requires standing even when the person was
not previously standing.
The former view is the most widely accepted view and I believe is the bottom
line view in the Mishna Brura. The Yeshiva world, which will usually tend to
accept the most stringent view, accepts the latter view.
Recitation of the Amidah:
There are basically three views in this case:
1. No standing at all is required.
2. One must stand during the entire recitation.
2.1 One can stand in any manner as long as he/she is not leaning in a manner
such that were the leaning vehicle removed he/she would fall.
2.2 One must stand with feet together in the same manner as if he/she were
reciting the Amidah.
3. One must stand for the recitation of the Modim and remain standing until
the recitation is completed.
I won't go into the reasonings behind these different views, as this is a very
intricate area.
Generally, the first view is accepted and even in the Yeshiva world (at least
this is my impression based on having prayed many years in different Yeshivot).
Among those who accept the second view, most accept 2.1. Rav Soloveitchik
accepts view 2.2.
The third view is widely accepted defacto (since most people will usually stand
for Modim and remain standing since this is close to the end and in Israel
there is Birchat Kohanim), but it is difficult to establish how many actually
do su dejuro.
Thanks,
Cb.
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| 850.3 | Todah Raba | BAGELS::SREBNICK | Bad pblm now? Wait 'til we solve it! | Mon Dec 18 1989 16:42 | 1 |
| Thank you very kindly.
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| 850.4 | SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.......... | VAXWRK::ZAITCHIK | VAXworkers of the World Unite! | Wed Dec 20 1989 15:40 | 3 |
| I just wish that, standing or seated, people would be QUIET !
-Zaitch
PS/ Chag Chanuka Sameach to everyone!
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| 850.5 | | GAON::jem | Eat, drink, and be... fat and drunk | Wed Dec 20 1989 19:18 | 8 |
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>I just wish that, standing or seated, people would be QUIET !
V'imeru Amen!
Jem
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