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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:SMURF::FENSTER
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1524
Total number of notes:18709

849.0. "Looking for Relatives lost in Holocaust" by TAVIS::JONATHAN () Thu Dec 07 1989 17:41

   I am putting in this note with the slight hope that maybe someone can
   help me in trying to find out what happened to my grandparents and
   aunt and uncle during the Holocaust.

   My mother managed to get out of Germany in May '39 as a 17 year old
   girl and to get to England.  She left behind in Breslau (now Wroclaw,
   Poland) her parents Herman and Alma Zernik (b. 1890's), her brother
   Bernard (b. 1922) and sister Edith (b. 1924).

   Up until March 1943, she received post-cards from her family through
   the Red Cross.  These post-cards were allowed to contain a maximum 
   of 20 words and were severely censored by the Nazis (yimach sh'mam).
   From the post-cards, she knows that her family was still in Breslau
   in 1943 (they had been moved to a ghetto in an old part of the town).
   The last post-card starkly said "We are travelling".  

   All attempts by my mother at the end of the war to get any information
   from the Red Cross drew a blank.

   For a long time, my mother never discussed with us the topic of her 
   family and her experiences in Nazi Germany, repressing all the bitter
   memories.

   Lately the whole thing has been on her mind a lot, and just two days 
   ago she went to Yad Vashem (the Holocaust Memorial monument) in 
   Jerusalem (which was in itself, a very difficult thing for her to do)
   to see if they had anything, but again with no result.

   Does anyone out there in the US or Europe have access to data, or any 
   idea where to make inquiries?   (The Germans were very methodical 
   and kept accurate records of their fiendish and dastardly deeds).

   Thank you,

   Jonathan Wreschner

   
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849.1Wiesenthal CenterSUTRA::LEHKYI'm phlegmatic, and that's cool.Fri Dec 08 1989 04:579
    
    Try and get in touch with the Wiesenthal Center in the US, or in
    Vienna, Austria. I was told they have excellent pointers to archives,
    documentation, etc... If they don't know, they at least know who knows.
    
    No, I do not have their phone#, but your operator should be able to
    help, there.
    
    Chris
849.2BOLT::MINOWPere Ubu is coming soon, are you ready?Fri Dec 08 1989 14:224
I believe that Yad Vashem has extensive archives, as does the Diaspora
museum in Tel Aviv.

Martin.
849.3Wiesenthal CenterBAGELS::SREBNICKBad pblm now? Wait 'til we solve it!Mon Dec 11 1989 15:521
I believe that the Wiesenthal Center is in Los Angeles, CA, USA.
849.4Try the Red Cross againNDLIS3::DKELLERTue Dec 12 1989 08:3319
    Shalom,
    
    Try the Red Cross again - as far as I know the UdssR handled all
    their records over to the Red Cross - so maybe there's a chance
    to get new infos. I saw a TV documentation in Oct 89 about the work
    of the Red Cross - they've *lots* of archives - and they're very
    successful in helping people looking for their relatives lost in
    the Holocaust.
    Try the Red Cross in GY directly - just send them a request incl.
    all infos.
    
    Another possibilty's the Wiesental center in Vienna, Austria.
    
    L'hit
    
    Dom
    
    PS: I could try to phone around to get the Red Cross address in
        GY if you want me too. I'm presently located in GY.
849.5Progress report and a small requestTAVIS::JONATHANThu Apr 30 1992 00:1522
More than two years have passed since I entered the base note, and some 
small progress has been made in trying to find out the fate of my grandparents,
uncle and aunt who disappeared in the Holocaust.

I would like to ask US readers for a small favour.

From my enquiries, it seems that my mother's family was deported from Breslau
(Wroclaw, Poland today) on the seventh transport on 5 March 1943 to Auschwitz.
Survivors after the war reported that my aunt and uncle, who were about 16 and 
20 respectively, were sent to a place called Reibnig.

One of the survivors (some say the only survivor) of the transport of 279
people was a nursing sister by name of Judith Sternberg.  This woman wrote
a book called "In the  Hell of Auschwitz" under the name of Judith Sternberg-
Newman.  The book was published by Exposition Press Inc. 386 Park Avenue South
New York 16 in 1963 (EP 41172).   The book states that Judith Sternberg-
Newman lives in West Kingston, Rhode Island.

Maybe someone can obtain for me a more exact address and phone number, so that
I can contact her, in the hope that she is still alive.

Thank you.
849.6tried, but....DELNI::SMCCONNELLNext year, in JERUSALEM!Thu Apr 30 1992 16:4713
    re: .5
    
    Shalom,
    
    I called Rhode Island information and asked for a Judith
    Sternberg-Newman in the city you mentioned, but they had no number for
    her (or for Judith Sternberg or for Judith Newman).  They did have a
    number for a J. Sternberg in North King(*) (Kingston/Kingsfield, I
    forgot now...) which I called but it was not the home of the author.
    
    Sorry.
    
    Steve
849.7DELNI::SMCCONNELLNext year, in JERUSALEM!Thu Apr 30 1992 16:529
    addendum to .6
    
    I also called information for a number for Exposition Press Inc. and
    they have no listing (are they out of business?).
    
    My dad's a book-reviewer...I'll give him a call and see if he can help.
    
    
    Steve
849.8SUBWAY::STEINBERGComplacency is tantamount to complicityThu Apr 30 1992 18:298
    
    Jonathan,
    
    I tried looking up Exposition Press in NY, but it's not here.
    Any other leads?
    
    Jem
    
849.9TAVIS::JONATHANSun May 03 1992 08:429
    Thank you both Steve and Jem.
    
    Unfortunately, I have no more information other than that the book was 
    published in 1963.
    
    Judith Sternberg-Newman should be, by my reckoning, at least 70
    already.
    
    Jonathan
849.10OXNARD::KOLLINGKaren/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca.Tue May 05 1992 06:069
    My mother lives in North Kingstown.   She looked in the phone book;
    there is one J(effrey) Sternberg in North Kingstown, no
    Sternberg-anythings in the book, about 15 or so Newmans, but none in
    West Kingston and none with a first name Judith or plain initial J.
    
    There's one synagogue in that phone book, Congregation Beth David of
    Narragansett, Kingstown Road, Narragansett, R.I.  Maybe you could
    write to them.                                
    
849.11Online database at Yad V'shemJEREMY::MAURENEMaurene Fritz, JerusalemSat May 16 1992 23:107
    A friend of mine says that Yad V'Shem has a new online database, which
    has been operating only a month or so.  They apparently got help from
    some people in the US to set it up.
    
    It's worth a try.
    
    Maurene
849.12TAV02::JONATHANFri Jun 05 1992 16:3913
    re.11
    I called Yad Vashem, and spoke to a fellow named Alex, who tried to 
    help me, but was unsuccessful.   He explained to me that the new online
    database that they are setting up, is of the testimonies in Heichal 
    HaShemot (The Shrine of Names).   So the only names that will appear in
    the database, are those about which survivors gave testimony.
    
    Thanks anyway.
    
    re .10
    
    Thanks for the address of the synagogue in Kingston R.I. - I haven't 
    written yet, but still intend to do so.
849.13UpdateTAVIS::JONATHANThu May 13 1993 14:0928
I should update this note and report on my findings.

After a period of more than two years, I received an answer from the
International Tracing Service at Arolsen Germany, affiliated to the Red Cross.

They were unable to provide any information at all regarding my grandparents and
aunt, stating "that many records were destroyed through the effects of war".

However, they did give me something on my uncle:


     ZERNIK, Bernard (no further personal data),

     was incarcerated in Concentration Camp Auschwitz
     on 17th April, 1943, Prisoner's No: 107156, and
     died there on 20th May 1943.

     According to the information which we could ascertain,
     the prisoner's number 107156 of Concentration Camp 
     Auschwitz was issued on 6th March 1943 (Transport, by
     order of the "Reichssicherheitshauptamt", from Breslau.


There is no doubt that this my mother's brother.  Next Thursday the 20th May
will be the 50th anniversary of his death, and now my mother has some hard
evidence as to his fate, as well as a yahrzeit (15 Iyar).

Jonathan