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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:SMURF::FENSTER
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1524
Total number of notes:18709

798.0. "Wellesley incident" by --UnknownUser-- () Wed Oct 11 1989 13:07

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798.1a town that was not long ago JudenreinDELNI::GOLDSTEINDo you, Mr. Jones?Wed Oct 11 1989 15:5414
    The Rabbi in our shul (in Lexington) addressed "the news from
    Wellesley" during Kol Nidre but didn't tell us what happened; we saw
    the news later.  I don't think it's necessary to complain about the
    local Rabbi; do you really think he'd condone what happened?  Perhaps
    Yom Kippur is a time to reflect on our own sins, not talk about those
    of others? (Just speculating.)
    
    I have some relatives who tried to buy a house in Welleslay about 25
    years ago.  They were politely told that no Jews need apply.  So I
    guess I'm not too surprised.
    
    Also, there was a press report that the perpetrators were not known as
    bigots per se, but were looking to add maximum shock value to what
    would have been plain old vandalism.  I hope that's all it was...
798.2Further update, for those outside the local news coverage area DECSIM::GROSSThe bug stops hereWed Oct 11 1989 18:0216
One of the accused persons is a Natick resident (next town west). The other is
from Wellesley.

The police have connected the accused with one of the 24 separate incidents of
vandalism. It is only a matter of time before they are charged with all 24.
It is unusual for the perpretrators of this kind of act to get caught and I am
very pleased to see it happen this once.

One report said that a brick wall had been covered with anti-semitic
slogans, a swastika, and the "f" word. A clean-up job was underway when a TV
crew arrived to film the wall and all that was left was the swastika and the "f"
word. The TV crew waited until that word was erased before filming because it
was too obscene for the public. The reporter felt, personally, that the swastika
was equally obscene.

Dave
798.4topic echoDELNI::GOLDSTEINDo you, Mr. Jones?Thu Oct 12 1989 17:032
    This topic is completely redundant with 792 and I suggest that further
    replies take place there...
798.5ABACUS::RADWINI think, fer sureFri Oct 13 1989 11:0224
     re: < Note 798.3 by LEAF::C_MILLER >

    
>>     his family is being protected.  I have often asked myself if they
>>    learned this type of behavior at home.  
>>    Perhaps his father had one too many pushy Jewish customers.  
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    For me, this is a blaming the victim argument -- and it's irrelevant.
    People claim they hate Jews because we are too pushy or too compliant,
    because we are too rich or because we are too poor, because we
    are too conservative or too liberal, because we are too stingy
    or because we are too generous, because we are different or because
    we try to fit in, because we are part of the international
    communist conspiracy or because we are part of an international
    bankers cabal, etc.
                       
    Ultimately, anti-semites hate us for their own reasons that has nothing
    to do with who we are, what we do, and what  we believe.
                                
    
    Gene
                                              

798.6Pushy indeedENTRE::LUWISHFri Oct 13 1989 11:1110
    re: .5
    
    I read the line about the "pushy Jewish customers" as having a pinch of
    sarcasm behind it.  I don't think it was meant as an explanation for
    the action but rather as an example of some of the anti-semitic remarks
    the father may have made in the home.  I am often surprised when
    acquaintances let such stereotypes slip out in my presence -- I wonder
    what happens when there isn't a "token Jew" around to restrain their
    speech, and I don't have to wonder what such remarks do to children who
    hear them.