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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:SMURF::FENSTER
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1524
Total number of notes:18709

748.0. "Reciprocation" by ABE::STARIN (The Instructive Tongue) Tue Aug 01 1989 12:41

    For some years now, I've been reading about Jewish people who volunteer
    to fill in for Christians at Christmas so that they can enjoy a
    holiday with their family.
    
    Would it be possible to reciprocate? In other words, could I fill
    in for someone on Yom Kippur? It may or may not be possible but
    I always figure better to ask than not to ask at all.
    
    Mark
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748.1a great idea, in areas with a high Jewish populationCADSYS::RICHARDSONTue Aug 01 1989 13:2324
    I applaud Mark's offer, but it doesn't seem to be really needed, at
    least where I live - in critical professions (health care, police,
    fire, and so forth) Jewish people are enough of a minority that it
    doesn't seem to be a problem for people to schedule themselves to not
    be on call on the high holidays or during the Passover seders, and so
    on.  Though in our synagogue there are always one or two of the doctors
    who have their beepers in the pockets on Yom Kippur, and discreetly ask
    us committee-member types where a non-disruptive telephone is located,
    just in case there is an emergency (which I think has happened exactly
    one time, since I have served on the high holidays committee) - they
    are not on duty but have to be on call (that particular doctor is a
    cardiologist; I think he is *always* on call - never seen him without
    the beeper - what a way to live....).  Of course, we are a liberal
    congregation, but in matters of life and death, breaking any rule is
    allowed to save a life (according to most interpretations, anyhow).
    
    I bet the offer would be real helpful in areas with a higher
    concentration of Jewish people, though - say, Brookline, MA, rather
    than the western suburbs where I live.
    
    We do sometimes get groups who volunteer to help out during high
    holidays services right at the schul - babysitting, for example.
    
    /Charlotte
748.2Babysitters? Did you say babysitters?ABE::STARINThe Instructive TongueTue Aug 01 1989 14:0716
    Re .1:
    
    Thanks, Charlotte.
    
    Funny you should mention babysitting.....some years ago when I lived
    in Rochester, NY, several teenagers from Temple Beth Am babysat
    at my Congregational Church on Christmas Eve so that the parents
    could participate in the service. The following September (if memory
    serves) my wife and I babysat in the nursery during Yom Kippur at
    Temple Beth Am.
    
    I'd be glad to fill in wherever needed. My good friend, Jim Freedman,
    will be passing the word in Temple Beth Abraham's (Nashua, NH)
    newsletter as well.
    
    Mark
748.3ULTRA::ELLISDavid EllisWed Aug 02 1989 09:5310
Re .1:

> Of course, we are a liberal congregation, but in matters of life and death, 
> breaking any rule is allowed to save a life (according to most 
> interpretations, anyhow).

Even according to the strictest interpretations of Jewish law, there are very
few matters that are not superseded by "pikuach nefesh" (the saving of a life).
Certainly, the decorum of a High Holiday service would be secondary to a
medical emergency.
748.43 thingsSOJU::FRANCUSMets in '89Mon Aug 07 1989 23:435
    In fact there are only 3 things that do not superced "pikuach nefesh"
    (saving of a life.
    
    yoseff
    
748.5Please drop other shoeDECSIM::GROSSThe bug stops hereTue Aug 08 1989 11:413
Ok, you got my attention. What are the three things, please?

Dave
748.6murder, incest, idolatryLBDUCK::SCHOELLERWho's on first?Tue Aug 08 1989 15:286
If I remember correctly they are:
1) The commandment to not murder
2) The commendments against forbidden sexual activity (incest, adultery)
3) The commandment against idolatry

Gavriel