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    Lower East Side in Manhattan may be your best bet  when looking.
    
    yoseff
    

Why not ask someone in Israel to send you some? I think you could
come out way ahead that way, given the markups in the Jewish book
stores!    

    
    Can anyone recommend a place in Boston to buy a single Tallis? 
    I would like to have a good selection, but most gift shops seem
    only to have one or two tallitot.  (I have to buy one for my 
    fiance :-).
    
      todah rabah,
        Cheryl
    

    Both the Israel Book Shop and Kol Bo on Harvard Street in Brookline
    have  a good selection of tallasim.  These stores are a block from each
    other between Beacon Street and Comm Ave.
    
    Mazal Tov,
    
    Av

  thanks--I hope they have tallises of both genders ! ... :-)
    
       Cheryl

    First, Mazel Tov!
    
    Second, when did a tallis develop multiple genders?
    
    If you mean you are looking for a tallis of a style and size suitable
    for a man or a woman, there is plenty to choose from.  I've seen three
    kinds which seem to be popular:
    
    There are the big wool ones with either black or blue stripes (I think
    I have seen one with multi-colored stripes).  We used a full-size wool
    tallis for our ketubah.  Since then I've worn it on Yom Kippur, but it
    is a bit too large (and hot) for me to use other times.  These also
    come in half-size.
    
    There are the linen ones which are hand-made (I think) in Israel.  They
    are usually white, but I have seen them in light blue, and the stripes
    come in all sorts of colors.  You can get one with a matching yamulke
    and tallis bag.  They come in sizes, including small enough for almost
    anyone.  My "normal" tallis is one of these.
    
    There are synthetic ones, usually white with blue stripes.  This is
    what you find on the tallis rack at most shuls.  I was given one of
    these when I was a Bar Mitzvah.  I usually have it with me and loan it
    to someone who forgot his on Rosh Hashana or Yom Kippur.  It is a bit
    small for me these days, and looks a bit silly.
    
    I haven't bought a tallis in a while, but when I last looked I think
    the wool ones were over $50, and the linen ones could run over $100 at
    the Israel Book Store in Brookline.
    
    I personally think the linen tallasim are the most beautiful, with the
    wool second in that respect but perhaps having more character.
    
    The Israel Book Store has all three kinds.  If you are buying one for a
    woman you might not want to mention that fact while you are shopping.
    
    					Paul
    

   re .0
   Friends of ours, Miriam and Yehuda Aranne, may be able to help you.

   Miriam is a very talented artist and she does contemporary Jewish art, 
   which includes everything from hand-made Ark-covers, Torah scroll covers, 
   challah cloths, tallit and tefillin bags, bridal canopies, appliques, 
   wall-hangings based on Biblical and Jewish themes etc.  She works in a 
   variety of mediums from silk to velvet.

   Her art tallit bags are individually hand-made with the person's name
   painted on and cost around $30.  She can produce machine-made tallit bags
   with a design of hers for about $15.

   Miriam's company is called Shesh Moshzar, and is located at her home in
   Moshav Gimzo, D.N. Merkaz 71130, Israel.  Her phone number is 972-8-240513.

   Her brother-in-law Shlomo Aranne is currently in Mass. and has samples of
   her work as well as brochures.  His address is 51 Reservoir Rd, Chestnut
   Hill, MA 02167.

   BTW - any colleague of mine who would like to see some of her work, is
   invited to take a peek at my cubicle in Herzliya where I have some of
   her posters framed.

   Jonathan

Shalom,

Re: .6

I think the comment about gender had to do with using tallisim, or tallitot
for the plural.  I have heard both depending on whether the ashkenazik or
sephardic pronunciation is used.

Re: .3

I am not sure how their selection of tallitot is but Sabbath Lights does have
a pretty good selection of other Judaica.  They are on Rt. 9 just west of
126 in Framingham.  This may be more convenient from the Mill.  I will also
second the recommendations of either Israel Bookstore or Kol Bo.  They generally
have a good selection.

I would like to add to Paul's comments.  The larger size tallitot feel more
like garments (and therefore I prefer them).  However, a full size wool
tallit can be very uncomfortable for a long day in shul (esp. Yom Kippur).
So you may want to look at ones in lighter fabrics like linen.

L'hit,
Gavriel

>Note 738.6:
>	We used a full-size wool tallis for our ketubah.


I've seen all kinds of beautiful and unusual ketubot, but this
is a new one for me...

					:-)

    Oops - I meant the Chupah.  Sorry about that!
    
    				Paul
    

    RE: 738.7

    I'd like to come by and see the posters.  :^)

    Unfortunately, it's a little far to come over
    during lunch.   :^(

    But maybe I can come up with a job-related reason to have
    my manager send me to Herzlia.  :^)

    (A few years ago, we were vacationing in Israel and as we
    drove up the road from Tel Aviv to Haifa, I spotted the
    Digital sign and pulled off the road into the DEC lot
    --despite the rest of my family complaining that we were
    supposed to be on vacation--and went in.  As soon as I
    showed my Digital badge everybody went out of their way to
    be as hospitable as they could; they gave us cold juice and 
    a Hebrew Digital bumper sticker, showed us around, and
    recommended places to eat.  All-in-all, a very pleasant
    experience.)

                                        Aaron

    
    Has anyone out there shopped for a tallis on the lower east side of
    Manhattan recently? 
    
    My 83 year old grandfather is being Bar Mitzvah'd next Saturday and we
    (his six grandchildren) would like to buy him a new tallis.
    
    I'm planning on going to Zion Tallis after work today, but only because
    it's the only place my father could remember the name of, and it also
    has a big ad in the phonebook.  Does anyone have a particular one to
    suggest?  Is Zion a good choice?  I remember when I went with my
    parents to buy mine (15 years ago), a lot of the smaller store owners
    wouldn't even speak with us when they realized the tallis was for me!
    
    I'm hoping to get him a tallis, bag and kepah for about $125.  Is
    that a reasonable expectation?
    
    Thanks for any help,
    Phyllis
    

disclaimers:  The original owner of Ziontallis (who has since retired and moved
to Israel) is a friend of my family's.  My fiance is friendly with one of the 
people who work there now.

Zion, while not the cheapest place on the east side, has nice stuff at 
reasonably reasonable prices.  I bought my own tallesim there just last week.
Unless you start ordering really fancy stuff, $125 sounds like it should 
make it.

Louuuuuuuuuuuuu

My husband and I live on the Lower East Side (he is a third generation lower
east sider).  

When we got married last year, he went to Munkatch (sp?) for his tallesin;  they
moved from the eastside to Boro Park several years ago.  He has mentioned on
several occasions that they carry the highest quality though may not be the
cheapest.

I'll ask him tonight for the address and prices.

Regards,

Rochel Smith DTN 352-2367

The Munkatch Tallis Factory is on 13th Avenue between 38th and 39th Streets,
a couple of doors down from Poor People's Friend (a fruit store).  You can't
just walk in and buy a fully assembled tallis, however.  Tzitzis are sold
separately, and if you can't tie your own, you may have to wait, or even
come back if there's nobody there who can tie them.  BTW, if you're looking
for a non-wool tallis or a non-black-and-white one, you probably won't find
it there.  I paid $80 plus the cost of tzitzis there four years ago.

I spoke with my husband last night.  He said that you probably don't want to 
spend the $$$ for a Munkatch Tallis.

He suggest the H&M Skullcap Factory on Hester Street between Essex and Ludlow.
The embroidered tallesim bags start at around $35 and they have a nice selection
of tallesim.

re: .15  Munkatch does sell white-on-white and cotton tallesim, but only for
         a tallis katan; they must be custom ordered.

    
>re: .15  Munkatch does sell white-on-white and cotton tallesim, but only for
>         a tallis katan; they must be custom ordered.
     
    That's strange. When I married a year ago I didn't wear my new 
    tallit (bought in Netanya near where I married).
    
    Now, my Chupah was after sunset.
    
    In what circumstances if any does a Chatan where a Tallit under the
    Chupah? Or, is it just an option? 
    
    Malcolm

    
    Thanks for all the responses!  I ended up at Ziontalis last night,
    and bought a beautiful wool tallis, velvet bag with his name
    embroidered in the corner, and knit kepah for $108.  Not only within
    the budget, but divisible by six!  :-)
    
    Now if we could just have a group prayer that they finish the bag in
    time.. :-)
    
    Thanks again,
    Phyllis
    
    

RE: .17
     
>    That's strange. When I married a year ago I didn't wear my new 
>    tallit (bought in Netanya near where I married).
    
>    Now, my Chupah was after sunset.
    
>    In what circumstances if any does a Chatan where a Tallit under the
>    Chupah? Or, is it just an option? 


	Are you joking?  I apologize for my tendency to not translate words.

	A tallis katan is a small tallis; it looks sort of like a white poncho 
        and is worn the entire day.  It is not the kind of tallis worn in shul
        over a suit and was mentioned in .15 as side comment.  Sorry for the
	confusion.