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Tonight is Yom Kippur which begins with the recitation of Kol
Nidre, in which we declare that all the vows and oaths which we
may have made in the previous year (in other versions: in the
coming year, or in both the previous and the coming years) are
NULL and VOID. The prayer is in standard legalese (albeit in
Aramaic) where three synonyms are used every place one word would
do well.
Has anybody ever thought about what a weird thing this is? Here
are some points to consider while you are saying Kol Nidre:
- For some reason, this recitation (it's not really a prayer) has
taken on solemnity and importance far beyond its actual importance.
Some Jews only go to synagogue a year. Many others (at least in Israel
this is true) only go for Kol Nidre, as if this were the essence of
all Yom Kippur.
- K.N. has been used by anti-semites for hundreds of years (including
as recently as a couple of years ago in a case in Alberta, Canada) to
show that Jews cannot be trusted, that they do not respect their own
promises, etc.
- K.N. has very little halachic importance. The shulhan aruch days "it is
customary to say K.N..." -- very soft language, and certainly not as
strongly required as other parts of the liturgy. Also, and this is
important to remember, K.N. does NOT (halachicly) absolve you of any
vows. If you promised to donate $100 to the shul, you are required
by halacha to do it, K.N. or no K.N.. Vows can only be annulled by
a properly constituted Jewish Court, and you had better have good
reasons for needing to annul it.
- There is another (less well-known) formula called "hatarat nedarim",
usually recited in the synogog on the morning before RH or YK. This
looks a little more like a proper court since the recitation is made
before three "judges", but it still has only symbolic (not halachic)
significance since the vows are not spelled out and there is no cross-
examination of the claimant.
- There are some standard answers given about what K.N. is *actually*
all about (only vows between man and his Creator, only vows we are forced
to make by the Inquisitors, etc.) but the question remains why these
limitations are not spelled out in the Kol Nidre itself, instead of
appearing to give a blanket license to lie and cheat in the coming
year. This doesn't seem to me to be the proper way to start Yom Kippur.
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| 551.1 | Lots of reasons | COGMK::FRANCUS | In Xanadu did Kubla Khan | Thu Sep 22 1988 16:31 | 20 |
I believe that in the Mishna it is specified that only vows between
man and God are absolved on Yom Kippur - this is before Kol Nidre
was written.
KN has taken on such a meaning for a number of reasons:
1) Most synagogues (sp?) take out all the Torahs on this occasion,
and it has evolved into a very solemn ceremony.
2) The melody for KN is the same in any Ashkenazi shul I've ever
been in for YK.
3) It marks the beginning of YK, which together with Neilah which
ends YK are the "highlights" of the day.
It is not so much what KN actually says, but the evolution of how
its done that keeps drawing many people to shul for this moment.
yoseff
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| 551.2 | our big service is Rosh Hasshanah first morning | CADSYS::RICHARDSON | Fri Sep 23 1988 14:05 | 15 | |
In our schul, Kol Nidre is about the third largest high holiday
service (I'm on the high holiday committee, which means showing
up the day or afternoon before to set up rented folding chairs and
uncrate the extra high holiday prayerbooks, etc.). The big one
is the first morning of Rosh Hashanah, and the first evening of
Rosh Hashanah is a bit larger than the usual Kol Nidre crowd. I'm
told this is very unusual. The next service after that is Yom Kippur
morning. You would think that a lot of people would come Rosh Hashanah
afternoon (to hear the shofar) or to Yizkor (a lot do, but less
than half the crowd we get Yom Kippur morning, maybe because the
congregation is mostly young families who do not have people to
say kaddish for). This pattern tseems to be unique to our
congregation; I know a lot of the other synagogues in the area have
had to go to having two Kol Nidre services and/or selling seats
(which we have never done).
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| 551.3 | "Nedder" <> obligation.... | TAVENG::CHAIM | The Bagel Nosher | Tue Oct 04 1988 06:17 | 32 |
Firstly, it is a mistaken supposition that Kol Nidre or for that
fact any Hatarat Nedarim can absolve a nedder or vow without a valid
justification. The only case where a nedder or vow can be absolved
without any justification is the case of a husband who has the right
to absolve any "neddarim" or vows which he has heard his wife make
(with the stipulation that he does this on the very day that he
hears them being made -- he who hesitates, too bad). The Talmud
and subsequently the Code of Law very explicitly set forth the rules
governing who and under what circumstances a "nedder" or vow can
(and in some cases should) be absolved.
Also, this mechanism known as "medder" should not in any way, shape,
or form be confused with contracts or other valid means (written
or verbal) through which a person obligates himself.
Getting back to the original query with regard to Kol Nidre, there
is a very ineteresting essay which was compiled by Pinhas Peli in
"Al Hateshava" (On Repenetance), which is a group of essays based
on lectures given annually by Rabbi Joseph B. Soloveitchik during
the ten days of repentance on themes dealing with repentance, which
attemptes to demonstrate the similarities between the concept of
"Hatart Nedarim" and the way in which G-d forgives our sins. I believe
that within this essay there is at least some implicit referrence
to Kol Nidre.
I know that Rabbi Soloveitchik, in keeping with this basic theme,
insisted that the "Chazan", while reciting all the prayers of the
entire "Yom Kippur" day, be accompanied by two other men who would
stand along side the "Chazan". This was representation of the three
men required to form a minimal "Bais Din" (court).
Cb.
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| 551.4 | confession | VAXWRK::ZAITCHIK | Existence is NOT a predicate | Wed Oct 12 1988 17:04 | 6 |
The only time that the Kol Nidrei service ever moves me is when I think of something totally unrelated to it. What is interesting to me is the fact that the solemnity of the occasion and the haunting (Ashkenazi) melody really DO move me greatly... when I just ignore the words. | |||||