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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:SMURF::FENSTER
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1524
Total number of notes:18709

502.0. "El Al Protectzia, anyone?" by STRSHP::REISS (Fern Alyza Reiss) Tue Jul 19 1988 13:52

    
    Does anyone out there in BAGEL-land have any protectzia with El
    Al?  I'm interested in vacationing in Israel the same time everyone
    else on the planet is, and tickets through normal channels can't
    be had.  An admittedly unorthodox request, but if anyone knows anyone
    who knows anyone, I'd be very appreciative!  Thanks, /Fern
                           
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502.1really?LINK02::PINCKAmy Pinck, DTN=223-4335, Long Live DuckTue Jul 19 1988 14:227
    really? I am surprised that EL AL is booked up, because I
    was just in Israel and all the talk was about the lack
    of turism.  Also, all the tours were nice and empty.
     
    I know this does not help you, I am sorry
    Amy
    
502.2STRSHP::REISSFern Alyza ReissTue Jul 19 1988 14:455
    
    Hi Amy--
    
    I know, I've heard this also.  El Al's response to lack of tourism,
    apparently, is to run fewer flights. /Fern
502.3Where have all the tickets gone,ZACHOR::SHSSteve Schwartz * ISTGTue Jul 19 1988 17:236
    Perhaps the otherwise unsold seats were bought in advance by tour
    operators and consolidaters.  Try calling Nesher Travel in Brookline
    and other agents.
    
    				--- ShS
    
502.4Try the AJCHJUXB::ADLEREd Adler @UNX / UNXA::ADLERTue Jul 19 1988 19:031
    Try a tour with the American Jewish Congress - they use El Al.
502.5Fly happyTAVIS::MAYERWed Jul 20 1988 01:556
    
    Fly SWISS AIR and feel the difference.
    
    The 'quality' of El Al flights lately has been terrible.
    
    
502.6Try Ideal Tours in the big Apple...TAVENG::CHAIMThe Bagel NosherWed Jul 20 1988 08:0910
    Re: -1
    
    I still prefer "B'vaksha" to "Bitte Shein".
    
    Re: .0
    
    I'd also try calling Ideal Tours in New York. I've heard that Mr.
    Elbaum can work wonders.
    
    Cb.
502.7ThanksSTRSHP::REISSFern Alyza ReissThu Jul 21 1988 11:574
    
    Thanks, everyone, for the help, both on and off-line!  Looks like
    I'll be heading artzah the week of October 10.  Thanks for all your
    suggestions!  /Fern
502.8Have a stop!ULYSSE::LEHKYI'm phlegmatic, and that's coolWed Jul 27 1988 10:539
    In case nothing else works, try to go to Israel via a stop somewhere
    in Europe (Zurich, Frankfurt, Paris, Vienna, Amsterdam). El Al has
    connections to all major European airports, and most European airlines
    have Israel on their flight plans, too.
    
    re .6: SWISSAIR personnel do also speak English and French, so,
    no need to speak German :-)
    
    Chris
502.9EL AL -for what its worth58242::BELLdtn 273-3217 VRO5-2/D6Thu Jul 28 1988 10:5315
    re .5
    I agree that you should fly Swiss Air.
    We flew to Israel last July on EL AL.  There personnel are obnoxious.
    You don"t get the same treatment that other airlines give.  They
    left Boston Over 12 Hours late and Because the departure would 
    have meant getting into Israel after sundown Shabbot we ended
    up at Heathrow.  We in effect wasted two days of our tour.  I
    could go on but let it suffice to say that it is YOUR gelt
    that you are spending, so you might as well get your money's 
    worth.
    
    BTW, Swiss Air's security was equally good as EL AL and their 
    courtesy was many times better.
    
    -Bill
502.10no rules....TAVENG::GOLDMANFri Jul 29 1988 03:488
    I have flown on many airlines.  I find that there tend to be 
    no hard and fast rules about the "goodness" of the 
    experience.  I've had real losers on most of the major 
    airlines.  I've also had fine flights on all of them.

    One point for El-AL - it's the only airline on which you can 
    get kosher food which is not six weeks older than the food 
    served to your neighbors :-)