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492.1 | | CIRCUS::KOLLING | Karen, Sweetie, & Holly; in Calif. | Tue Jul 05 1988 23:00 | 10 |
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Try writing to: Non-Account Department, W. Heffner & Sons, Ltd.,
20 Trinity Street, Cambridge, England CB2 3NG. They'll charge to
MasterCard and ship by mail. The got me the last remaining copy
in the universe of "The Libyan Revolution: A Sourcebook of legal
and historical Documents Volume 1: September 1969-30 August 1970"
awhile ago; it was published in 1972; nothing is beyond their
capabilities.
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492.2 | I'll try them also | TAZRAT::CHERSON | Ok,now jump through this hoop | Wed Jul 06 1988 10:43 | 5 |
| Well elf shukre Karen, I'll give them a try, however I'm a little
leery of using plastic these days. I also have the address of the
publisher.
David
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492.3 | ? | ESKIMO::JULIUS | | Wed Jul 13 1988 15:29 | 3 |
| Sorry I can't help, but I'm curious what/who is it about?
It's an interesting title.
Bernice
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492.4 | this is what it is | TAZRAT::CHERSON | Ok,now jump through this hoop | Wed Jul 13 1988 16:48 | 5 |
| re: .3
It's a history/biography of Yehudah HaMaccabi.
David
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492.5 | You're kidding, right? | BOSTON::SOHN | Rage in Eden | Wed Jul 13 1988 18:46 | 7 |
| re: < Note 492.4 by TAZRAT::CHERSON "Ok,now jump through this hoop" >
> It's a history/biography of Yehudah HaMaccabi.
*Not* Bar Kochba?
eric
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492.6 | Was he one of the false Messiahs? | MINAR::BISHOP | | Thu Jul 14 1988 13:07 | 6 |
| I belive that "Bar Kochba" ("Son of a star") is not a proper
name but a nickname or title. I don't know the real name
of the leader of the Zealots who died on Masada, but that's
who Bar Kochba is.
-John Bishop
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492.7 | both and... | TAZRAT::CHERSON | Ok,now jump through this hoop | Thu Jul 14 1988 13:29 | 5 |
| re: .5 & .6
He's both, and no he wasn't one of the false messiahs.
David
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492.8 | | HPSVAX::ROSENBLUH | | Thu Jul 14 1988 13:32 | 22 |
| < Note 492.6 by MINAR::BISHOP >
-< Was he one of the false Messiahs? >-
> I belive that "Bar Kochba" ("Son of a star") is not a proper
> name but a nickname or title. I don't know the real name
> of the leader of the Zealots who died on Masada, but that's
> who Bar Kochba is.
-John Bishop
Aaaaargh. I can't begin to straighten this out.
Bar Kochba did not have anything to do with Masada.
Bar Kochba had nothing to do with Judah the Macabee.
Bar Kochba WAS a false messiah, of sorts; and he was the major
military commander in the 3rd century (c.e.) revolt against the
Romans. I'm not sure whether Bar Kochba is or isn't a nickname -
but I don't think so.
(Is that the John Bishop who used to participate in Soapbox many many
moons ago with mostly libertarian arguments? )
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492.9 | | BOSTON::SOHN | Rage in Eden | Thu Jul 14 1988 14:03 | 16 |
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Okay...
Bar Kochba *is* a nickname. The correct name was Shimon Bar Kosiba, if I
remember correctly. He led an insurrection against the Romans in 135 AD.
He was very charismatic, but eventually got a little full of himself and
got killed (there's a tale about why this happened, but I honestly don't
remember it well enough to tell it).
I *thought* the remnants of the Bar Kochba revolt (he was already dead)
died in Masada.
Tell you what, I'll check my Grayzel tonight and tell you tomorrow...
unless someone else fixes this mess first.
--axe--
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492.10 | I goofed | TAZRAT::CHERSON | Ok,now jump through this hoop | Thu Jul 14 1988 17:08 | 6 |
| re: .8
Alright so I confused a bit of Jewish history (and also forgot my
good hebrew school education). Don't get so upset at other's mistakes.
David
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