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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:SMURF::FENSTER
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1524
Total number of notes:18709

475.0. "Miluim duty increase?" by ANRCHY::SUSSWEIN (He Who Dies With the Most Toys Wins) Wed Jun 08 1988 12:32

    I heard something on the news last night about the number of days
    a year of miluim (army reserve) duty being increased.  Can anyone
    in Israel confirm or deny this, and supply more details?
    
    Thanx,
    
    Steve
    
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475.1YesSTRSHP::REISSFern Alyza ReissWed Jun 08 1988 12:383
    
    I heard this too, Steve, from a friend in Israel.  The "average"
    person's duty is up to 60 days, apparently; more for officers. /Fern
475.2impossibly high?IOSG::LEVYQA BloodhoundThu Jun 09 1988 15:465
    if the average is 60 days what's the norm? 
    
    How does industry cope?
    
    Malcolm
475.3ANRCHY::SUSSWEINHe Who Dies With the Most Toys WinsThu Jun 09 1988 16:1917
    Could somebody in Israel supply more details on this, please?
    
    The things I'm interested in are whether this is supposed to be
    temporary, or the new standard, and whether it's retroactive (for
    those who are already in miluim), or only for those who are about
    to transition from full-time to reserve.
    
    The numbers I remember before the increase were:
    
    privates	30 days
    non-coms	45 days
    officers	60 days
    
    Can you also supply the new numbers?
    
    Steve
    
475.4How temporary is temporaryTAVENG::MONTYLEG has it now .... FCS '92Thu Jun 09 1988 19:1117
< Note 475.3 by ANRCHY::SUSSWEIN "He Who Dies With the Most Toys Wins" >
    
>>    The things I'm interested in are whether this is supposed to be
>>    temporary,
      Its only supposed to be for the present financial year. As temporary
      as anything else ;-)
>>              or the new standard,
      No 
>>                                  and whether it's retroactive (for
>>    those who are already in miluim),
      No. The maximum number of days is for the WHOLE financial year.
>>                                     or only for those who are about
>>    to transition from full-time to reserve.
      Sorry, don't quite understand the question.
        
                                                                     
475.5TAVENG::GOLDMANFri Jun 10 1988 02:4214
    
>   How does industry cope?

One of our group's projects currently has about five people 
working on it.  It's a real pain because usually you have 
someone who is just leaving, currently out, or has just returned
and needs to get up to speed again.  

BTW, the 60 days is always broken up into at least two stints 
with about 4-8 months in between.

One of the more interesting aspects of life in Israel is the 
ability to cope with things and the speed which new twists on 
life are assimilated into routine.
475.6Reserve means also discretionTAVIS::JUANMon Jun 13 1988 11:429
    Friends:
    
    Being the reserve duty a specific military matter, I don't believe
    it should be a matter of public discussion (at least on this side
    of TAVLAND).
    
    Regards, 
    
    Juan-Carlos 
475.7the number of cups of tea I drink --CLASSIFIEDTAVENG::MONTYLEG has it now .... FCS &#039;92Mon Jun 13 1988 18:0814
    Juan,
    
    You are correct that military matters should not be discussed in
    public. This includes such things as military units, location, bases
    etc etc....
    
    However, maximum length of miluim duty has been publicly announced on
    the news and been reported extensivly in the local newspapers. 
    
    It has also been reported in the international press, thus we can't
    define it even as a small military secret. ;-) ;-)                
    
    Shhh,
    							..... Monty
475.8How many cups of tea do you drink?TAVIS::JUANWed Jun 15 1988 04:261
    
475.9Fifth ammendment !!!!TAVENG::MONTYLEG has it now .... FCS &#039;92Wed Jun 15 1988 05:1822
>>     < Note 475.8 by TAVIS::JUAN >
>>                     -< How many cups of tea do you drink? >-
   
    Juan,
    
    You should know better !!!
    
    If you want to know, please fill-in form DEC ISR2378/89 June 1986
    edition and get it countersigned by AT LEAST two deceased Vice
    Presidents [If you have difficulty finding two deceased VP --- we
    can arrange an accident -;) -;)].
    
    With the aforementioned forms you then send them through inter-office
    mail to the Australian subsiduary in order that an external examiner
    can review the material.
    
    If they O.K the request, then I *MIGHT* tell you  -;) -;) 
                                   
    Anyway, since I started working here I only drink the coffee the
    tea is **!!??
    
    							.... Monty