Conference taveng::bagels

>I am looking for someone that recorded the whole NIGHTLINE special that
>was aired live on Tuesday April the 26th.

	Sultan, if you get a copy of this, I would like one also.
	So, if you'd please tell me if you have success, I'd
	appreciate it. I have both VHS and Beta, so format does not matter.

/don feinberg

    Shucks! If only I had a VCR and I had taped the show, I could have
    been rich. (Okay, what about less poor?)

	I hadn't realized that it was a three-hour (actually 3:10 elapsed
time) when I started to watch it.  By 2 a.m. I wished I had taped it...

>	I hadn't realized that it was a three-hour (actually 3:10 elapsed
>time) when I started to watch it.  By 2 a.m. I wished I had taped it...
Yeah, ABC failed to publicise it properly. But then, having watched Nightline
for the past four years religiously, I should have known "Town Meetings"
are three hour programs.

One thing truly shocked me. The tension in the room. I could feel it,
even though I was sitting thousands of KMs away. WOW! Now I am beginning
to feel more despondent about this tragic affair.

As Koppel said "The Palestinians are on the right; the Israelis on the left.
And I hope we could keep it that way", I felt that he was summarising the
whole story!

-parthi

    This is my first reply in notes, so bear with me if I have a bit
    of trouble, please.
    
    I believe you can contact ABC in New York and pay $3 or so for a
    transcript of any report.  I don't know how/if they handle video
    transcripts, but it is certainly worth asking.
    
    This Reporting from Jerusalem has been quite a heart wrencher, eh?
    
    If anyone contacts ABC please let us know.
    
    
    Sue Kur
    BIGMAC::KUR
    

    	If anyone has contact with ABC find out if we could get the
    transcripts on machine readable form.
    	I, for one, would be willing to help distribute unedited
    transcripts to anyone (at DEC) who wishes to learn more about the
    situuation in the Israel. 
    	
    
    Mordecai Ben_Zeef
    

    
    For those of you who are interested.
    
    	I contacted ABC to find out the availability of transcripts
    and here is the information I got.
    
    	Yes, transcripts are available. You can either send a check
    to the address given after the program or if you have a credit
    card you can call
    		212-227-READ
    	The cost is $4 per show.
    
    	Also If you call VIDIO ENTERPRISES 212-887-1731  the can arrange
    for a copy of a show. The spokesperson had no idea about the cost.
    
    	Finally, with regard to my idea  about distributing the transcript
    on easynet, I would have speak to their LEGAL department. Before
    I make that call to ABC's "LEGAL" does anyone want me to and does
    anyone know if I have to get anyone's permission at DEC,such as
    our LEGAL, before I call.
    
    Mordecai Ben_Zeef
    
    
    

re:-1


	I don't think digital LEGALS  needs to get involved.  I say 
	that because the information that ABC provides is very PUBLIC.

	
-Sultan

reply to < Note 460.11 by 3168::SAADEH "Will there ever be peace over there" >

>	I don't think digital LEGALS  needs to get involved.  I say 
>	that because the information that ABC provides is very PUBLIC.
	
	I'm not a lawyer, but I believe that that is not the case.
	It's well established that information which is broadcasted
	is still covered by copyright, and is the property of the
	broadcaster.

	I would expect that the transcripts (the "$4 transcripts") would
	contain an appropriate copyright notice.  For that reason,
	for example, no DEC copy center will xerox such a document.
	Any wide distribution in Digital without ABC's explicit agreement
	would be treated as a violation of that copyright.

	Example:  we once had a lawsuit from Walt Disney Productions
	because we were using a picture of Mickey Mouse as a graphic
	image on our graphic terminals and printers in engineering.
	We weren't selling it; we were just using it as a test coupon.
	They got pretty upset with us.

/don feinberg

    	I have ordered, for my own use, a copy of the transcripts. I should
    have all 5 by Tuesday. I have not looked into the Video yet. I too
    am missing the end of most of the shows because they ran longer
    than I expected.
        When I spoke to ABC they meantioned that getting written permission
    to copy for non-commercial/non-legal purposes should not be a problem.
    Colleges, schools, and civic organizations do it (legally) all the
    time. That is why they offer the service. I would just be required
    to sign a statement stating the purpose etc.
    
    Mordecai Ben_Zeef
     
    

    Re: Transcripts and/or copies of tapes
    
    Friday night, I got home late - just in time to switch on the
    very tail end of Nightline.
    
    During the closing credits, there was the usual announcement about
    written transcripts, but there was also an announcement about the
    availability of videotape copies of the whole series.
    
    Unfortunately, I didn't have a chance to write down the address,
    but if someone calls either ABC or, in Boston, Channel 5, the local
    ABC-affiliate, I'm sure the information can be obtained.
    
      Alan

    	If the videotapes turn out to be prohibitively expensive (like
    over $100), we could all chip in and buy a set as a group and take
    turns viewing it.  (Or, even better, have a BAGELS party at somebody's
    house.)
    
    	Let's wait to see if somebody comes up with the full information,
    and then we can revisit this idea.
    
    		David

reply to < Note 460.16 by ULTRA::OFSEVIT >, and others...

>    	If the videotapes turn out to be prohibitively expensive (like
>    over $100), we could all chip in and buy a set as a group and take
>    turns viewing it.  (Or, even better, have a BAGELS party at somebody's
>    house.)

	I called the place to see about the videotapes today.

	This is the information I received:

		1)  They do not have videotapes of the Ted Koppel programs
			from last week yet.  There is no price and/or
			availability information.

		2)  They do not know which, if any, or all of the tapes
			will eventually become available.

		3)  They do not know about prices.  I asked them about
			the prices for other shows...

			The prices range from $160 to $360 per cassette
			for 1/2 hour programs.

	You multiply it out yourself... :-(


	Anyway, the outfit is:

		ABC Distribution Co.
		825 7th Ave.
		New York, NY  10019

		Attn: Ms. Vance

/don feinberg

    I believe I have the entire week on beta tape, except Wednesday
    or Thursday when I fumbled the setting and only got the first hour.
    When I was checking the end of tape for that day, it cut off in the
    middle of a discussion with (I think) Amos Oz. (Did I miss much?)
    
    I'll lend it out.  I assume this is legal, since no one here is going
    to fork over $nK so ABC isn't losing any business.  Possibly the
    easiest thing is for me to lend it to one person back East and then
    s/he can organize whatever viewing arrangements you want to make.
     
    

reply to: < Note 460.18 by CARMEL::KOLLING "Karen, Sweetie, & Holly; in Calif." >


>    I believe I have the entire week on beta tape, except Wednesday
>    or Thursday when I fumbled the setting and only got the first hour.
>    When I was checking the end of tape for that day, it cut off in the
>    middle of a discussion with (I think) Amos Oz. (Did I miss much?)
>    
>    I'll lend it out.  I assume this is legal, since no one here is going
>    to fork over $nK so ABC isn't losing any business.  Possibly the
>    easiest thing is for me to lend it to one person back East and then
>    s/he can organize whatever viewing arrangements you want to make.
>     
	I will volunteer to make one "seed" copy of these tapes, since 
	I have both Beta and VHS equipment and some duplicating gear.
	(Of course, the copy will be VHS; and VHS recordings from Beta
	are less then optimum, but you get what you pay for...)

	That "seed" VHS copy can then get circulated in any way we might
	agree to. Some group here chips in to buy the tapes that are going to
	get circulated and worn out? OK?

/don feinberg

    I have two VCR's (don't ask) and would be glad to make a copy if
    anyone is interested.  Unfortunately I didn't tape the show so I
    need the original Nightline show.  I work at MK1.
    
    Charlotte Temple
    

    I've sent a beta tape to Don already.  This is just the first tape
    (3 hours) of 3, as I don't have other blank tapes at hand.  Given
    my tendency to procrastination, this one will probably cycle back
    to me before I get to the video store for more blanks.  It's a beta
    II to beta II copy;  if the vhs copy from it is too bad, I might be
    able to scare up someone out here with both types of machines and make
    a vhs copy.  (Don -- since it's a copy, I don't care if I get it or a
    replacement back, but if a replacement, not a Sony tape, please, as
    they shed oxide in my machines.)
                                                         

    If you're wondering what's going on with the tapes, Don and I are
    still shuffling them around.  However, I saw a blurb in the NY Times
    to the effect that channel 13 in NY, which I think is a PBS station,
    will be showing a 2 to 3 hour condensation of the Nightline series.
    Perhaps this means it will be showing up on other PBS stations around
    the country.                                 
    

I am not sure what the subject matter is, but there was a reference to a
"Nightline Special" to be aired at 21:00EDT on Wednesday on WGBH Ch2, Public TV 
in Stereo for Boston; it may be what Karen was referring to!


-parthi

    See also WGBX, Ch. 44, Thursday at 9 pm EDT.