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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:SMURF::FENSTER
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1524
Total number of notes:18709

421.0. "Jews in Iran" by BUFFER::HOFFMAN (Joan Hoffman, DTN: 276-9829) Thu Dec 31 1987 11:58

I haven't seen this topic before - if I'm mistaken, sorry.

Can anyone here, or in Israel, shed some light on what's happening to the
very large, properous (used to be at least) Jewish population in Iran since
the take over?  When I was in college, I dated a Persian Jew, who's father
was one of the wealthiest men in Teheran.  I was also very friendly with
some Persian Jews who emigrated years ago.  But, since the take-over,
no news.

Anyone have any knowledge (not speculation)?  

Regards,


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421.1Some information on Iran...TAVMTS::JUANMon Jan 11 1988 09:5932
    As you wrpte, a large and rich Jewish community used to live in
    Iran. 
    
    Since the take over by the Ayatolahs the Jewish community life and
    survival was jeopardized. They were considered allies and agents
    of the devil State of Israel, something almost as bad and terrible
    as being American...
    
    Even before the Shah fell, many wealthy jews left Iran, many of
    them came to Israel. However, the wealthy people that left Iran
    found many times that it is easier to be rich in Europe or the States
    than here in Israel and you'll find them more frequently in your
    side of the pond.
    
    After the take over, the situation was closer to that of the Jews
    in Germany in the '33-'39 period and many tried to leave by ways
    no-ways - through other neighboring countries, crossing borders
    sometimes also legally, and many times they were stripped of all
    their worldly possetions in their flight...
    
    Stories we heard here about beatings, tortures and indignities rival
    with those of Czarist Russian pogroms and Nazi infamities.
    
    Most of the community fled Iran while remembering with nostalgia
    the good old times there. There is still a small community there,
    not much is known of their whereabouts. Supposedly, there are some
    instances trying to take care for them and -perhaps- get them the
    right to leave that country. In this subject it seems better to
    keep things under the veil of silence...
    
    Juan-Carlos
      
421.2ThanksBUFFER::HOFFMANJoan Hoffman, DTN: 276-9829Mon Jan 11 1988 11:1116
Thanks Juan-Carlos for the information.  It was suggested to me, off-line via
mail, that this topic should not be included in this conference due to its
sensitivity and whomever might read about it.  I forwarded that suggestion
to the moderators and left the decision up to them.  I guess they decided to
keep the topic in the conference.

Instead of limiting this topic to the Jews in Iran, why not expand it to
the Jewish communities in other Arab, Asian countries.  I would like to
learn more about these communities and how they co-exist.  Anyone have any
info?

Regards,
Joan



421.3ARGUS::BISSELLWed Jan 13 1988 13:339
    There is a very large Jewish community in Istanbul.  I discovered
    this by understanding spanish and understanding what a shopkeeper
    and his partner were discussing as to a price they should charge.
    I got into a discussion and they indicated that there had been a
    mass migration from Spain (hence the spanish language) during the
    inquisitions.  Turks are generaly very tolerant of other Religons
    and my understanding from them is that Islam teaches that.
    The shopkeepers indicated that they were will treated and respected
    by the Turks.
421.4Yes, but...FSLENG::CHERSONand what's your raison d'etre?!Wed Jan 13 1988 15:1114
    Yes, there is a substantial Jewish population in Istanbul, that
    is overwhelmingly Sephardic.
    
    One note of interest:
    
    Several years ago a conference on the Armenian holocaust was to
    have taken place at Tel-Aviv University.  I say WAS to have taken
    place because as was reported in a front-page story in the N.Y.
    Times, the Turkish govt. threatened the security of the Jewish
    community if the conference took place.  Seeing that it was front-page
    material in the "holiest of holies", and given the Turk's refusal
    to cop to the Armenian genocide, I put some credence in the story.
    
    David