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>    My PSA, who knows I'm Jewish, called me the other day and asked
>    if I would prefer a Kosher turkey for the "Holiday Turkey Give-a-Way".
>    
>    Of course I said yes.  It may be a bit late as of this writing,
>    but all I had to do was to buy it myself, and submit the receipt,
>    along with my Turkey card and a Procurment form to personel.  I
>    did not have to go through my cost center manager.
    
	This has been normal DEC policy (at least in the USA) for several
	years now. You don't need any procurement form: just the turkey
	card and the receipt, written up on an employee expense voucher.
    
/don feinberg

	And for those that don't like turkey?

    Its hardly too late. acording to the policy you have until the
    15th of Jan to buy said turkey and turn in said recept and card.
    
       jeff wolf

    Procurment form or not, I'm only following instructions.  I believe
    it took some 30 seconds of my time to fill out such a form.  And
    I enjoyed my turkey.
    

    Why aren't these things communicated a bit more widely to employees?
    
    It IS too late for those of us who *already* retrieved our regular
    Turkeys.  You don't suppose they'd accept a trade-in on the bones,
    do you?  ;-)
    
    Well, at least I'll know next year.  [Is there a "comparable size"
    limit, or can I purchase any kosher turkey that will fit in my
    wagon? ;-Q  --winking hungry face with tongue ready to lick the
    various pots, pans, and bowls.]
    
    Thanks for passing along the information.  Some of our PSA's don't
    seem very sensitive to such issues, alas.
    
    	Penelope

    The turkey you purchase can not exceed the 14lbs (12-14 lbs) that
    were handed out.  I got mine at Shafron's on Harvard St in Brookline.
    
    

reply to: < Note 418.5 by GLINKA::GREENE >

>>    Why aren't these things communicated a bit more widely to employees?

	I think that it's just "numbers".  My "gut" is that there
	are, at most, a few 10's of folks in Mass/NH who would require
	a Kosher bird, and would think to ask.
    
>>    It IS too late for those of us who *already* retrieved our regular
>>    Turkeys.  You don't suppose they'd accept a trade-in on the bones,
>>    do you?  ;-)

	Pardon my asking, but if you required a Kosher bird, how is it 
	that you accepted/ate a non-Kosher bird?
    
>>    Some of our PSA's don't
>>    seem very sensitive to such issues, alas.
    
	I don't think that observant Jews make up much of even a
	minority in Digital...

/don feinberg	

    I think the assumption is that if you don't want/can't use the bird,
    you'll give the card to a friend with a big family, or donate it to the
    feed-the-needy-one-really-good-meal-a-year programs - as I recall boxes
    for the latter purpose were provided at turkey distribution.

    [Please don't think I'm putting down the programs for the needy.  I
     think they're a very worthwhile endeavor.  It bothers me, though, that
     so many people {myself included, to be honest -- this has generated
     yet another resolution to do something for the Less Fortunate} let that
     one annual gesture of a few bucks make them feel that they're "doing
     something to stop hunger."  It's a drop in the proverbial bucket.  But
     I do like to see DEC making people think about that option].

    When I first heard about the turkey distribution, I thought it was a
    little tacky -- if they held it the week before Thanksgiving it would
    be a lot more useful.  Of course we can eat turkey any time, but the
    "Christmas turkey" struck me as a bit blind.  Finding out that they
    allow you to get a Kosher bird instead makes me much more comfortable
    with the whole thing.

    Beverly

    Re: tofu for vegetarians
    
    Actually, people who are vegetarians on "ethical" rather than health
    grounds have been trying for years to save the birds destined for
    them from being killed.  If you don't accept a turkey, DEC gives
    it to charity;  not exactly an improvement from the bird's point
    of view.
    

    To answer the question about why the information is not more widely
    available, My supervisor had a personmell type guideline descibing
    how to get reimbursed for post-purchasing a kosher bird. So some
    of your managemtn atleast should have known about it.
    
       jzw ..... gobble gobble

    re: .7
    
    My reply is similar to the spirit expressed by .8
    
    I don't *require* a kosher turkey, but that doesn't mean
    I don't appreciate the choice, and in fact, I would have
    gotten one.  I, too, wish it could be available for
    Thanksgiving for those not having celebratory Christmas
    dinners.
    
    Next year I *will* get a kosher turkey!
    
    	;-)

       It seems to me that if you observe the dietary laws and eat fowl
       only if it is kosher, then you should take advantage of the
       Kosher turkey offer.
       
       It also seems to me that if you do eat non-kosher fowl and would
       prefer a kosher turkey for some other reason (tastes better, fresh
       rather than frozen, or whatever), then you are abusing the
       privilege.  If enough people abuse the privilege, it will
       disappear. 
       
       --Mr Topaz

    A reminder: to get a kosher turkey, contact your PSA.  You'll probably
have to submit your turkey card, a receipt, and an expense voucher.

    I got the information on retrieving your turkey card for a kosher
    turkey today from our Personnel office:
    
    Purchase a 12-14 pound turkey, take the receipt together with
    the turkey card to your manager and fill out a Miscellaneous
    Procurement Voucher.  The manager has the form signed by local
    personnel and forwards it to Ronnie Lorenzen at CFO2-2/C38 no
    later than 13 January, 1989.  The voucher will be signed by the
    CC manager, a memo to authorize the reimbursement will be attached
    and the voucher returned to the employee to be cleared at their
    local petty cash office.  Questions should be directed to
    Ronnie Lorenzen DTN 251-1312 or (508) 264-1312.
    
    Marge

    
    Reminder...  You can get a Kosher Turkey instead of
    the ones given out every year...
    
    The previous notes explain the procedure well.
    
    Amy
    

In the past, many of us have justifiably complained about insensitivity
on the part of certain people in Digital.  It seems only fair to acknowledge
it when others not only make the effort to take into account Jewish observance,
but also to let us know that this is being done.

The following is taken from an article on the front page of the SCIT Connection
(the newsletter for the Semiconductor and Interconnect Technology group)
for December, 1989:


"Employees requesting kosher turkeys must purchase one themselves weighing
between 12-14 pounds and submit a completed Miscellaneous Procurement Voucher
along with the original receipt and turkey card to:

[ list of names and mailstops follows ]

Deadline date for corporate reimbursement on kosher turkeys is January 8,
1990."

    Although this has nothing to do with Turkey, in the spirit of .16 I
    would like to point out that the (tentative) plan for DECworld '91 is
    to have it in July, not September.  This obviously will avoid conflicts
    with you-know-what.
    
    --David

re .16

Eric, could you post the mailstops and names needed to get reimbursed
for a Kosher turkey?   Also, where can an average Digit get ahold of a
'Miscellaneous Procurement Voucher'?  Is this something my PSA should have,
or what?

Thanks.

Kathy 

If your departmental secretary does not have them then the local personnel
office should.

Gavriel

I believe the contact is your local employee activities person.

    Lucky people: they get turkeys. All we get is some champaign and goose
    liver :-)
    
    Envyingly yours,
    
    Chris

A reminder to BAGELers in the GMA: you can get a kosher turkey for
your turkey card.  The procedure is described in earlier replies
to this note (and note 239).

    Does anyone know what the procedure is this year for obtaining a           
    kosher turkey.  I looked at the earlier note but I couldn't find
    that person listed in elf any more.  If anyone knows who the
    appropriate contact is this year I would appreciate their posting
    it.

From:	CALS::GILFIX "Daniel Gilfix, NAS Concurrent Engineering Group, 297-3243  25-Nov-1991 1703" 25-NOV-1991 17:08:03.99
To:	SIMON
CC:	
Subj:	How to get a kosher bird


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                     H O L I D A Y   T U R K E Y ' S

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             TURKEY DISTRIBUTION - MRO1,2,3,4 MET, MOO, AND UPO  

T U R K E Y S   A R E   C O M I N G   T U R K E Y S   A R E   C O M I N G

T U R K E Y S   A R E   C O M I N G   T U R K E Y S   A R E   C O M I N G

T U R K E Y S   A R E   C O M I N G   T U R K E Y S   A R E   C O M I N G



WHEN WILL TURKEYS BE DISTRIBUTED?
--------------------------------- 
The turkeys will be distributed to all permanent Digital, MRO employees
on Wednesday, December 4th  Employees must present a "TURKEY CARD" in 
exchange for a turkey! (Employees must display their badge.)



MRO1, 2, 3  - WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 4, 1991 
============+++++++++++++++===============

Turkeys will be distributed outside the Main Entrances and at MRO1-3
Visitor Entrance...

Time:  2:00PM  -  5:30PM


MRO4 - WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 4, 1991 
============+++++++++++++++========
   
Turkeys will be distributed at the First Floor West Stairwell.

Time: 2:00PM  -  5:30PM


MOO - WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 4, 1991 
============+++++++++++++++========
   
Turkeys will be distributed in the Hallway between the Dock and Cafeteria.

Time: 2:00PM  -  5:30PM


MET - WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 4, 1991 
============+++++++++++++++========
   
Turkeys will be distributed on the Shipping Dock. 

Time: 2:00PM  -  5:30PM


UPO1 & 2 - WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 4, 1991 
============+++++++++++++++=============
   
Turkeys will be distributed in the Main Lobbies.

Time: 2:00PM  -  5:30PM





HOW DO I GET A TURKEY CARD?
---------------------------
The Payroll Department will issue a NEW employee turkey card with the Digital 
employee paychecks the Thursday before distribution. MRO employees will
receive their turkey cards with their paychecks on WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 27th.
Digital TAGS are eligible to receive a holiday turkey.  (TAGS are on the 
Digital payroll system and are considered employees of the company.)

If you do not receive your turkey card with your paycheck contact your
site coordinator.


MUST I PICK UP MY TURKEY ON MY DELEGATED DATE 
---------------------------------------------
Yes.  Exact population counts have been given to the Turkey Distribution
Coordinator at each site, on the scheduled day, and THAT DAY ONLY.  We do not
have storage facilities for the turkeys, and if you cannot pick up your 
turkey, you must make arrangements for someone to pick it up for you.  All 
remaining turkeys are sent back to the Distribution site at the end of the 
day.


CAN I DONATE MY TURKEY TO CHARITY?
----------------------------------
Yes.  Any employee wishing to donate their turkey to charity may do so by 
marking "CHARITY" across the turkey card, and placing the card in the
Charity Box at your facility or mail it to your site coordinator. 
These turkeys will be donated to local service agencies for distribution to 
the community.


ARE KOSHER TURKEYS AVAILABLE?
-----------------------------
Employees requesting kosher turkeys must purchase one on their own, weighing 
between 12-14 pounds.  You must submit a MISCELLANEOUS PROCUREMENT VOUCHER to 
Denise Hurley MRO2-2/D4.  The receipt, along with the turkey card, must be 
sent along with the voucher.  In order for an employee to be reimbursed, 
vouchers must be submitted prior to January 4, 1992.  The voucher will be 
approved by Corporate Employees Services and Recreation, a memo to authorize 
the reimbursement will be attached, and the voucher returned to you to be 
processed through Petty Cash.

For more information contact your site coordinator:

MRO - Denise Hurley     DTN: 297-2561    MCIS1::DHURLEY


If you wish to help in this year's Holiday Distribution please contact
your site coordinator.

I would guess that outside MRO, you should contact your local personnel
rep for the memo of authorization.

Dave