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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:SMURF::FENSTER
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1524
Total number of notes:18709

411.0. "Halachic question on Chanukah" by IAGO::SCHOELLER (Dick (Gavriel ben Avraham) Schoeller) Tue Dec 15 1987 19:02

    How is Chanukah handled in the prayer services?  Do you recite the
    Festival Amidah or the daily Shemonei Esrei?  Do you put on tefillin
    for Shacharit or not?

    Gavriel
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411.1very minor holidayVINO::WEINERSamTue Dec 15 1987 21:584
    About the only difference in services (that I in my uninformed
    knowledge) am aware of is the insertion of a few paragraphs
    in the Shemonei Esrei towards the end.
    
411.2Hanuka bentschingCADSYS::REISSFern Alyza ReissWed Dec 16 1987 09:415
    
    
    Also, if you're into birkat hamazon (grace after meals), there's
    a special addition for Hanuka.
    
411.3not YomTov...CURIE::FEINBERGDon FeinbergThu Dec 17 1987 17:259

	Chanukah is not YomTov, therefore, no Hallel, etc., and
	normal Shacharit, Tfillin, etc.

	As was stated before, additions to Shmoneh Esrai and 
	Birkat Hamazon (but not Brocha Acharona).

/don feinberg
411.4Another Halachic question... :^)BRAT::DROTTERAmbassador, Tir na NogThu Dec 17 1987 23:476
    I think you forgot to mention one should also check and make sure
    that his or her Mezuza "is-real ly" Kosher!
    
    Chag Sameach,
    
    Yoseph
411.5And we read TorahCSCMA::SEIDMANAaron SeidmanFri Dec 18 1987 09:259
	If you pray with a minyan, there is also a Torah reading from
Numbers, recalling the dedication of the Mishkan.  On Rosh Hodesh (Hannukah
spans two months) there is both the RH reading and the Hannukah reading.
(In fact, I'm filling in for the regular reader at Reyim in Newton next
Monday and Tuesday, so I've just been reviewing it.  If you are in the
vicinity drop in and say hello.  6:45 am.  On Hannukah it will run about
an hour.)

					Aaron
411.6Another Chanukah questionYOUNG::YOUNGFri Dec 18 1987 09:4211
    As I understand the first blessing said over the Chanukah candles,
    it ends "who commanded us to kindle the lights of Chanukah".  Very
    similar to the Shabbos blessing.
    
    But, since Chanukah is not a Torah holiday, when/where is this command
    given?
    
    		Just Curious (This may be an "ask the Rabbi" question)
    
    					Paul
    
411.7neir shel channukahBEOWLF::STERNThere's Only so much Oil in the GroundFri Dec 18 1987 14:4216
re .6

Channukah is not of Torah origin, but of Rabbinic origin. However,the
reason that we have Channukah is because of a Divine intervention, i.e. in 
the rededication of the temple and the miracle of the oil. In the
rededication of the temple, the Bes HaMigdash is not sanctified unless the 
Menorah is lit- so there is a commandment to keep the menorah of the Bes
HaMigdash lit, and thus, the rabbis extrapolated that we should light our 
own menorah as well, keeping the memory of the Bes HaMigdash alive.

There is a whole series of articles posted to usenet based on Mishnayos for
Channukah. If you would like them (there are 8 long articles), they are
among the few that I've saved, and I still have copies.


411.8Hallel is indeed recited on Chanukah...TAVENG::CHAIMLe'ChaimSun Dec 20 1987 03:0311
    Re. .3:
    
    Even though Chanukah is not a Yom Tov, Hallel (complete) is recited
    all eight days. (Pesachim 117 -- see Rashbam)
    
    Re. .5:
    
    There are many cases where a Blessing is recited over a commandment
    even though the commandment origin is Rabbinical and not Biblical.
    
    Cb.
411.9A slight correctionBEOWLF::STERNThere's Only so much Oil in the GroundMon Dec 21 1987 10:304
Sorry. That was Beis HaMikdash, not HaMigdash. And to think that I've been
hearing it wrongly for all of these years...
Chuckster