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348.1 | ...and the answer is.... | BAGELS::FROLICH | | Thu Aug 27 1987 11:09 | 6 |
| Having recently returned from Israel, I too have seen it. It is
the Jerusalem cross; I saw it at the holy Christian places as well
as all the trinket shops. Whats it mean?.....I have no idea.
Bob
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348.2 | well, that's a start | CHAPLN::ROSENTHAL | Four days and counting... | Thu Aug 27 1987 11:16 | 9 |
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Well, at least we've now got a name for it... having seen it at
all the "holy Christian places", do you think we can assume it's
not a Jewish symbol?
By the way, HI! We're getting married in 3 days!
/donna
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348.3 | There are some who know more than we | IAGO::SCHOELLER | Help! | !pleH | Thu Aug 27 1987 11:22 | 7 |
| Shalom Donna,
Try IOSG::CHRISTIAN. There is more likely someone there who knows
Christian symbols. Terra Sancta is just Holy Land.
L'hit,
Gabi
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348.4 | Terra Sancta? | CURIE::FEINBERG | Don Feinberg | Thu Aug 27 1987 12:23 | 9 |
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When I was at the Hotel Melachim (Kings) in Jerusalem about four weeks
ago, there was a group from Spain, of about 60 people, all with little
badges with that cross, a "terra sancta" logo, and their name.
Real _weird_ to be eating dinner in Jerusalem, and have 60 people get
up and "cross themselves".
/don feinberg
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348.5 | | WHICH::MAGID | | Thu Aug 27 1987 12:34 | 9 |
| .4
Don why is it so "_weird_" to find people "crossing themselves"
Remember that Jerusalem is "the HOLY CITY" for several major religions
of the world.
By the way we haven't seen each other in long time, the families
should get togther soon.
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348.6 | | CURIE::FEINBERG | Don Feinberg | Thu Aug 27 1987 13:37 | 26 |
| re: .-1
>> Don why is it so "_weird_" to find people "crossing themselves"
>> Remember that Jerusalem is "the HOLY CITY" for several major religions
>> of the world.
Yeah, I know, I know. I use the word "weird" only in the sense that
I didn't really expect what I saw, i. e., a majority of identifiable
Christians in a restaurant in Israel. In that sense, it
was "weird" to be in the minority, in a Kosher place, in Jerusalem.
That is really a "head trip". I eat only in kosher places. And,
since a majority of restaurants in Israel are non-Kosher,
my "head-set" is to expect mostly Jews in Kosher places.
(I was in Melachim as part of a group... and remember that the
population of Israel is ~ 75% Jewish, slightly < 25% Muslim, and
the rest [I believe, under 4%] Christian, Druze, others. _That_
partially sets my expectations.)
It's part of my education in Israel.
/dlf
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348.7 | Custodia Terra Sanctae | TAVMTS::JUAN | | Sun Sep 13 1987 15:08 | 9 |
| Going back to the cross that opened the note, it is the emblem of
the "Custodia Terra Sancta" (?sp), i.e.: The guardians of the Holly
Land, as the Franciscan order was consecrated by the Popes to be the
guardians of the Holy Land and Christian holy places after the
Crusaders were defeated. The Franciscans namely, and priests of
other orders kept the different shrines (many times fighting one
the other the right to clean and or keep a certain shrine) under
the Arab and Otoman rules and later, in this century, the rule of
the English, the Jordans and Israelis.
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