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Title:BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:SMURF::FENSTER
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1524
Total number of notes:18709

271.0. "Wierd stuff in CACHE::CHRISTIAN" by MAY20::MINOW (Martin Minow, MSD A/D, THUNDR::MINOW) Wed Feb 11 1987 16:13

The Christian Notesfile CACHE::CHRISTIAN is discussing the New Age
Movement.  Somehow, the Illuminati and Freemasonry got tied in.
This led to... Well, read the following, heavily abstracted, for yourself:

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Note 341.5             New Age Movement and Related Topics               5 of 10
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    I know, and I care.  
    
    A close study of this movement reveals a distinct and solid connection
    to the Illuminati and Freemasonry.  Its political arm here in the
    US is the Council on Foreign Relations and its offspring, the
    Trilateral Commission.  (Someplace in my files I have the mailing
    addresses and phone numbers for both of these groups.)  The religious
    arm is in the National Council of Churches, the US affilliate of
    the World Council of Churches.  (You may have heard of the WCC --
    they're the ones supplying money to the ANC, the people who brought
    you Necklacing.)
    
....
    
    Religiously, these people have penetrated all levels and denominations
    of organized religion.  They have penetrated and affected the doctrines
    of Catholicism, Charismatics, Mainline Protestants, Pentacostals,
    even Judahism, I'm sure (witness the growing number of synagogues
    that have changed from Orthodox to Reformed).  
    
....
    
    And, by the way, even discussion of such a Movement is considered
    paranoia in most polite company.
    
    
    --Don Black

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Note 341.6             New Age Movement and Related Topics               6 of 10
HOTRAT::HEISERM "Live from the Valley of the Sun!"   39 lines  11-FEB-1987 13:49
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    I also an familiar with the New Age Movement and the Illuminati.
    I'm sure they're "holding hands" now or one evolved from the other.
    My mother has a series of tapes from a man that was in the Illuminati
    at the 6th level.  The rest of the levels you'll find in the pyramid
    on the back of your dollar bill (13 in all).  Anyways, he was saved
    out of the group and is exposing them with all he's got !  The
    symbolism is amazing, especially with major corporations.  Who knew
    '76 gas stations received their name from the date the Illuminati
    was formed in 1776 by Thomas Jefferson ?  The 8 sides of the
    Denny's sign ( 6 on sign, 2 on pedestal) are the 8 steps that
    make a witch official, including a homosexual act ?  Alistar Crowley
    (sp ?) was a member of the private coven of the Rothchild family
    in England and is also regarded as the most feared Satanist !  The
    Rothchilds are level 13, just below Lucifer's eye and they claim
    to be in constant communications with him !
    
....

    Mike
    
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271.1Hunh??CADSYS::RICHARDSONThu Feb 12 1987 12:4413
    What, if anything, are those folks talking about?  Never heard of
    any of it!
    
    I know of only one formerly Orthodox schul that is now affiliated
    with the Reform movement, and that happened because over the last
    15-20 years there was a big change in the membership, as more high-tech
    liberal-minded Jewish people moved into southern New Hampshire, while the
    original members, most of whom were close to retirement age, moved
    away or died.  Some friends of mine are members there.  I'm sure
    this has happened elsewhere, but I would have a tough time labelling
    it as a "conspiracy" of any sort.  It really isn't the same schul
    anymore; it simply uses the same name and happens to meet in the
    same building: there is very little overlap of membership.
271.2recommended reading for fantasy buffsDEBET::GOLDSTEINW.C. Fields ForeverFri Feb 13 1987 15:1814
    These guys are funnier than Woody Allen!
    
    Seriously, I read the Illuminatus Trilogy; it's a cross between
    science fiction and an LSD trip, with the context of the story (the
    scene) switching in mid-sentence without a clue, as in a dream.
    It's actually quite funny -- there's this guy with a submarine who
    talks to this dolphin, and lots of sex & violins, and a mythos about
    an ancient (sagans of years old) conspiracy which has in recent
    years begotten Adam Weishaupt, who is the face on the $1 bill (looked
    a bit like old George).  Some masonic ties too -- the masonic emblem
    (eye in the pyramid) is used as the Illuminati emblem too.
    
    Anyway, taking all this stuff seriously is a bit like believing
    that Shatner really _is_ Cap'n Kirk.
271.3I'm NervousNY1MM::BOWERSDave BowersTue Feb 17 1987 16:114
    This sort of mindless paranoia would be funny if it weren't scary.
    Note that the level 13 Satanists are the Rothschilds.  From there
    it's just a short step to "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion"
    and the Blood Libel.
271.4Woody Allen is MAD....not senile...:^}PLDVAX::PKANDAPPANSat Aug 22 1987 18:145
    	
    	Equating this senseless drivel to Woody Allen's humor......
    poor Woody....never knew he'd be insulted so much.... (:^}
    
    -parthi