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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:SMURF::FENSTER
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1524
Total number of notes:18709

255.0. "Hebrew keyboard layout?" by DEBET::GOLDSTEIN (no, before they changed the water) Tue Dec 30 1986 13:49

    Does anyone out (or over) there have a Hebrew keyboard layout in
    postable format?  (This is tough, given that I have a VT220.)
    
    There are two potentially interesting ways to use the Hebrew alephbet
    on conventional equipment.  The VT220 has loadable character sets,
    and I have a Hebrew font for it.  (Not that I know Hebrew, but other
    people around here no doubt do...)  Also, it turns out that the
    Atari {520,1040}ST computers come with the alephbet built in to
    their own multinational fonts.  The public domain Uniterm VT100
    emulator program comes with a keyboard reassignment program, so
    you can put any character you want on any key.  Extending that to
    other applications may let you build a Hebrew or Yiddish (or Ladino,
    I suppose) word processor, etc.  
    
    So a keyboard layout would be handy, nu?
        fred
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Name		DateLines
255.1MAY13::MINOWMartin Minow, MSD A/D, THUNDR::MINOWWed Dec 31 1986 11:204
"alephbet" -- is that a typo, or did you just invent a wonderfully
descriptive word for the Hebrew alphabet?

Martin.
255.2Not a new invention...MYVAX::LSCHWARTZWed Dec 31 1986 13:164
    Actually Martin, the Hebrew alphabet the is called the alephbet
    as far as I know.
    
    LS
255.3To aleph or alpha?NONODE::CHERSONMore_ScienceWed Dec 31 1986 13:286
    re:.2
    
    You're correct Lauren.  Alephbet is alphabet, and alphabet is alephbet,
    sounds like a great slogan, eh?
    
    David
255.4a technical digressionTAVENG::GOLDMANThu Jan 01 1987 10:1117
    I don't happen to have a keyboard layout which I could post but
    I will send you a photocopy of the LK201-AT Hebrew keyboard layout
    if you send me your postal address.
    
    BUT - The problem with using a soft font is that you cannot assign
    different charactercodes to keys.  On a normal keyboard, or a Hebrew
    keyboard not in Hebrew mode, the "A" key will generate a 41(hex) or 51, 
    depending on the shift state.  On a Hebrew keyboard, the Hebrew
    letter "shin" occupies that key when in Hebrew mode.  An unshifted
    "A" ("shin") key generates an F9 code (or 59 if you are in the older
    7-bit Hebrew mode.)
    
    Bottom line is that you cannot use a soft font and retain real Hebrew
    character codes and bilingual typewriter keyboard layout.
      
    If it's important, I might have a spare set of Hebrew VT220 firmware
    chips around here someplace.....
255.5Layout Ivri52465::JUANSun Jan 04 1987 08:3639
    The keyboard I have in front of my (and I'm typing on) has the
    following layout, which is active whenever I enter the Hebrew mode.
    In this mode we have as LOWERCASE the hebrew letters and in UPPERCASE
    uppercase English. My listing will give you the asociatetd Hebrew
    letter or symbol when pressing the corresponding English character.
    
    W  apostrophe
    E  KUF
    R  REISH
    T  ALEPH
    Y  TET
    U  VAV
    I  NUN SOFIT
    O  MEM SOFIT
    P  PE
    A  SHIN
    D  GIMEL
    F  CAF
    G  'AYIN     
    H  YOD
    J  HET
    K  LAMED
    ;  PE SOFIT
    '  COMMA
    \  SEMMICOLON
    Z  ZAYIN
    X  SAMECH
    C  BETH
    V  HE
    B  NUN
    M  TSADI
    ,  TAV
    .  TSADI SOFIT
    /  PERIOD
    
    Regards,
    
    Juan-Carlos 
    DEC Israel
255.6DEC 107-2REGENT::HANDLERThu Jan 08 1987 19:452
    CHECK DEC STD 107-2.  THE LAYOUT IS PUBLISHED  IN  FOR THE LK201