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    If the postings are gnerally interesting, like the halachic newsletter
    ones (well, I find them interesting; other people may not and can
    use "N U"), how about posting them here?  Then we won't generate
    extra DECnet traffic moving them around the enet.

    Re .1
    
    (-8 OK Charlotte, I think it's wonderful of you to volunteer. 8-)
    
    
    The only problem is with all the interesting information there is
    also plenty of junk. In addition the file will have to be purged
    every other week or so. 
    
    			Fred 

    Re -.1
    
    The "noise level" on the net.religion.jewish is really high.  I
    believe it will be much easier on this NOTEFILE space if anybody 
    who want to subscribe do so.  This is at least my experience, I
    have been reading it for the last two years.
    
    But it is well worth it!
    
    Leo

    Here is a suggestion if anyone will volunteer (I don't feel I can
    bell the cat in this case).
    
    Someone volunteer to digest it and set up a mailing list.
    
    The mechanics are relatively simple until/unless the distribution
    list becomes very large (as it very well might) at which point some
    help from someone with experience with large distribution lists
    could be called in.
    
    To digest it: subscribe.  Read with CURRENT/EDIT or number/EDIT
    which will call the editor of your choice on the file.  Delete the
    uninteresting and do any other editing you consider worthwhile.
    Stick a header, including the date and "issue" number at the top.
    
    Then explicitly do a WRITE to save your changes.  The file can
    then be queued and distributed that night.
    
    Any volunteers?
    
    				Topher

    I have facilities here on my Ultrix machine to do automatic
    digestification of usenet newsgroups. Personally, I think that daily
    digests would be no better than subscribing to the list directly, but
    if there is enough interest I'm willing to set something up. If you'd
    be interested in such a thing, send me mail. Note that instructions on
    subscribing to n.r.j are posted in an earlier reply. 
    
    	-- Charles
    

    Wait a sec.  What's different from running one automatic digestifier
    from another, like the one on ROLL?  You still get all the flame,
    unless somebody at Digital volunteers to "moderate", in which case
    you miss half the fun since one man's heat is another's light.
    
    For N.R.J. fans, btw, I met Martillo last week.  He works for Prime.
    He's a pussycat in the flesh -- you'd never know how much he could
    flame when hidden behind a keyboard.  And he isn't on, now that
    it's reorganized, though he might return.
          fred

RE: .5
    
    What does the "automatic digestifier" do for you?  If it simply
    substitutes lines of dashes for the page marks and sticks a header
    at the top, or if it works directly with the USENET files to the
    same effect, I'll agree with (.6), it is useless.
    
    I was suggesting something similar to moderation.  In a moderated
    newsgroup, people mail things to the moderator who redistributes
    those articles she thinks are appropriate.  The digest is similar
    except that anyone who wishes may receive the whole shebang (and
    of course, in this case the digest would be local to DEC).
    
    The point of the digest is that someone takes the responsibility
    to pass on those items which she judges to be of "general" interest.
    I was asking specifically for a volunteer to actively "moderate"
    (actually an inappropriate term, but the one generally used).  Once
    your set up, it should take only a little more time than simply
    reading the whole n.r.j each day.
    
    					Topher

    Sorry about the confusion. Since I read usenet news directly, I
    don't know how the system at ROLL works. What I was proposing sounds
    suspiciously similar to the automatic system already in use.
    
    I don't feel qualified to moderate, since, as Fred points out, one
    person's flames are another person's light, or light entertainment.
    
    Oh, well.
    
    	-- Charles

    I'm beginning to suspect that the n.r.j that comes from the
    ROLL::USENET distribution is just a small fraction of the total
    postings. Now that the group has been renamed soc.culture.jewish
    some major nodes in the USENET have dropped the group. From what
    I've heard in past discussions is most of the traffic for this
    group originates on the east coast, while our gateway to the net
    is on the west coast. We are cut off from the New Jersy AT&T crowd
    who have generated a good number of the postings.
    
    Is there anyone who can receive these postings directly from the
    USENET? Are you east of the Mississippi? Do you want to
    redistribute these postings? 
    
    			Fred
     

    My understanding is that things are in a state of flux.
    
    There was a decision made by some of the people who foot a particularly
    big chunk of the bill for USENET to change the naming scheme of
    USENET to make it more heirarchical.  This was done explicitly so
    that organizations which did not wish to get/pass-on high-volume
    low content ("talk") groups or social ("soc") groups or other
    sub-divisions of the total mass could easily eliminate them in one
    swell foop.
    
    We are now in the middle of the name change.  Some sites are using
    the old name and others are using the new.  For now it seems, we
    will have access to all the categories of groups.  When the name
    change seems to be completed, everyone using the ROLL:: service
    who is subscribing to a group under the old name will be automatically
    switched over to the new one.
    
    In the meantime, there are two active groups, one under the old
    name and one under the new.  To get everything which gets to DECWRL
    you must subscribe to both names.  I suspect that in the conversion
    process some notes, hopefully not many, will not get to DECWRL.
    
    				Topher