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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:	BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:	1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:	SMURF::FENSTER

Created:	Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:	Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	1524
Total number of notes:	18709

102.0. "Summer time" by MUNCSS::AJK (Anton J. Kuchelmeister, @MUT) Tue Apr 08 1986 02:53

Associated Press Mon 07-APR-1986 18:15                            Summer Time

   Israelis May Have to Cope with Two Clocks This Summer

   TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) - Israelis may have to use two different
time settings this summer because of last week's decision by a
Cabinet minister not to switch to daylight savings time.
   The possibility of a two-clock system increased when the
industrialists' association on Sunday announced its intention to
use daylight savings time, despite a decision by Interior Minister
Yitzhak Peretz not to change to summer time for at least two years.
   The army announced it will operate on daylight savings time.
Israel radio reported Education Minister Yitzhak Navon and the
country's two teachers' unions favor the use of daylight savings
time in schools for the remainder of the academic year.
   The decision by Peretz not to move clocks forward has sparked
tensions between secular and religious Jews. Most secular Jews
prefer summer time because it provides more hours of light after
work and helps laborers avoid summer heat.
   Religious Jews claim that the change to summer time interferes
with their prayer schedules and the observance of other holy rites.
   Many secular Jews have accused Peretz, who heads the
ultra-orthodox Sephardic Torah Guardians Party, of putting the
interests of the religious Jews ahead of others.
   Members of Prime Minister Shimon Peres' Labor Party have urged
him to change the interior minister's decision.
   But Peres is awaiting a Supreme Court decision on an appeal by
Labor Party parliamentarian Micha Harish, who wants the court to
order the immediate introduction of daylight savings time.
   Israel has used daylight savings time on and off since 1948,
more often in the nation's early years than of late.

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
102.1	Another version	GRAMPS::LISS	Fred - ESD&P Shrewsbury MA	`Tue Apr 08 1986 12:49`	12
	I heard the same thing on the Kol Yisrael news broadcast last night. However, there was one difference. Instead of referring to ultra-orthodox, they referenced ultra-religous. I am very curious about the choice of words. Is it accidental or is there a different meaning intended? Fred PS - There also was a piece about how the ultra-religous were vandalizing bus stops. I couldn't get the whole story but I believe it was because the busses operate on the Sabbath.
102.2	Bus shelter problems	WHAT::SCHWARTZ	Steven H. Schwartz	`Tue Apr 08 1986 13:54`	16
	The (relatively) new bus shelters are the plexiglas kind we're accustomed to. Advertising is, of course, put up in the shelters. The local objections are to the kind of advertising being posted, i.e., the graphics are not in accord with accepted standards of obscenity in those neighborhoods. The grassroots response has been directed toward removing the offensive advertising. I am neither condoning nor condemning the acts which occur. But consider waking up every morning, stepping outside your home, and facing an MBTA shelter displaying a large Penthouse ad in full color. "Wait," you say, "the Yerushalayim ads aren't for obscene magazines." That, however, is simply a matter of local standard. I think it is particularly insensitive of Egged (bus cooperative) or whomever to insist on displaying that advertising in those particular neighborhoods.
102.3	Ultra-what?	WHICH::SCHWARTZ	Steven H. Schwartz	`Tue Apr 08 1986 15:03`	11
	Re .1: "Ultra-religious" seems to imply "more religious than what I consider to be `normal' religious." Just try to define "religious"!! No, don't. We don't need any more isolating labels. --- S.
102.4	Here ys go !	CADLAC::MAHLER	Michael	`Tue Apr 08 1986 15:56`	7
	Religious: What your parents are. Very_religious: Going to Shul when your parents don't. Ultra_religious: Going to Shul when your grandfather doesn't!
102.5	2 Jews 3 opinions	STRIPA::NYOSC		`Wed Apr 09 1986 16:13`	10
	Not bad Mike, I heard Grossinger's needs a new comic! As for summer time, the Israeli govt. is funny, if it gets the people to stop thinking about inflation and the PLO; Let 'em argue. Bruce Cohen
102.6	Latest news on this issue	MUNCSS::AJK	Anton J. Kuchelmeister, @MUT	`Mon Apr 21 1986 02:43`	29
	Associated Press Sun 20-APR-1986 20:19 Israel Time Israel to Institute Daylight-Saving Time May 17 TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) - The Cabinet decided Sunday to begin daylight-saving time in four weeks, overruling an earlier decision by Interior Minister Yitzhak Peretz who is an ultra-orthodox Jew. The recommendation must be accepted by Peretz, but he told Israel Radio he regarded the Cabinet recommendation as a decision. He called the ruling ``uncomradely and undignified.'' The Cabinet proposed that daylight-saving time run from May 17 to Sept. 6. Earlier this month Peretz said the change should not be instituted for at least two years because there was no proof it led to savings in energy or reduced road accidents. Two weeks ago the Histadrut Labor Federation and the Coordinating Bureau of Economic Organizations, representing the country's major labor and business organizations, began a campaign for summer time. Yael Levinstein, an official of the Coordinating Bureau, said 4,000 workers had already set their clocks an hour forward. Saturday at midnight the town of Eilat, where 18,000 people live, introduced daylight-saving time. Ultra-orthodox Jews oppose summer time on the grounds it leads to the violation of the Sabbath, which starts each Friday at sundown and ends Saturday at sundown. When Israel goes on daylight-saving time it will not get dark until about 9:30 p.m., and theaters open and buses often start running before nightfall Saturday.