| re: .1
I think you are either not aware of Israeli societal problems, through
not having lived there, etc., or you are just trying to avoid the
issue by denying that one exists. This problem has been boiling
under the surface for many years, and finally manifested itself
during the first Begin regime.
The irony lay in why so many mizrachim saw Begin as a redeemer,
for he was as Ashkenazi as you can get, and besides he was just
interested in their votes, and his interest in their welfare was
questionable.
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| Hi guys,
Re: .1
I do Believe Mr. Cherson is right, there has been a problem in Israeli
society but here in the U.S. it really isn't manifest.
One reason is that in Israel some groups have felt that they were
pioneers where other groups were immigrants.
In the U.S. we were all immigrants so ....
My opinion though is that as the culture melds, sephardi and ashkenazi
(in Israel) will become Israeli with less distinctions over time.
Shalom,
Bruce Cohen
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| Some words from "the inside":
The problem DOES exist, even if we don't like (sometimes) to admit
it. It is a mixture of a few things, including historic legacy,
way of life, [some] polytics etc.
This subject has arised recently after the "Herut" conference, as
it had in previous times when polytics was involved.
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| While this may be a bit late in the season (almost two months
of inactivity in this note), I'd still like to put in my $0.02
worth...
Ron, in .2, says there is no problem. He's absolutely right. I am
fairly Ashkenazi, while my wife is Sfaradic (speaks French and
Ladino, believes chicken soup is for the birds - the works). We've
been married for more years than either of us wishes to admit. As
far as the "mixed marriage" is concerned, we have never had a
problem.
Among our friends there are at least two --probably more-- couples
in the same situation. I am talking real close friendships here: if
there was any problem, I'd know about it (God knows I've heard about
all other problems :-)), but there are definitely no broblems on this
particular score.
All these people --us included-- are Sabra's (Israeli born and
raised). They do not view themselves as Sferadis, Ashkenazis or
whatever. They are just Sabras; ergo: no problem.
Ron, in .2, says there is no problem. He's absolutely wrong. There
is a very disturbing, inherent, deeply entrenched sect problem in
Israeli society. This is an Economical/Political/Societal problem.
It stems from inequalities that occur in almost (hell, in a l l )
democratic societies. A lot of it has to do with the less than
beautiful side of human nature.
To summarize: on the interpersonal level, between people who know
each other, I do not think there is a sect problem in Israel. On
the political/social level, I believe there is a very real, complex,
inexorable problem that will take another generation to solve.
I didn't mean to be so long winded... sorry.
-- Ron
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