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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:SMURF::FENSTER
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1524
Total number of notes:18709

60.0. "Jerusalem Wall" by DAIRY::KRAWIECKI () Fri Jan 10 1986 10:21

Can someone please tell me the correct term (in Hebrew and English) and/or
the popular name for the existing wall of the old city of Jerusalem?

                                                       Thank you,

                                                        Andy

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60.1NEWVAX::MARLAFri Jan 10 1986 10:533
Hebrew:		Kotel Maaravi	(or Kotel, for short)
English:	Western Wall
Popular:	Wailing Wall
60.2DAIRY::KRAWIECKIFri Jan 10 1986 12:367
RE: -1

  Thank You very much.


                               Andy

60.3TAV02::ROSENMANMon Jan 13 1986 00:225
Just an additional clarification- the western wall was not a city wall but
the courtyard wall of the Jewish temple which was destroyed by the Romans
who left only this outer courtyard wall standing.
-David

60.4DAIRY::KRAWIECKIMon Jan 06 1986 08:479
RE: -1

  If you don't mind - some more information please?  Was this courtyard wall
all that remained of the whole city of Jerusalem or just of the temple? What
was the reason behind the Romans sacking the city?


                                                                Andy

60.5LSMVAX::ROSENBLUHMon Jan 20 1986 18:0953
The Romans burned the Temple in 70 AD and burned/sacked the city in 135 AD.
132-135  - Bar Kochba's revolt; a messianic attempt to free Judea from Roman
	   rule.  Hadrian was the emperor.  Judea was on the far eastern
	   border of the Roman empire, next to the Parthian empire. After
	   a too-costly war required to put down the revolt, the Romans
	   razed Jerusalem and exiled most of the remaining Jewish peasantry,
	   as an example to other subject peoples who might be inspired to
	   by their example to try gain their independence from Rome.
	   Jerusalem was rebuilt as a Roman garrison city, populated with
	   Roman soldiers and civilians only, to which Jews were not allowed
	   entry, and renamed 'Aelia Capitolina'.  Roman coins were struck with
	   the legend 'Judea Capta est' (Judea is captured).  It was very
	   important for Rome to keep Judea in the empire as a) a lesson
	   to the rest of the empire  b) a tactic in restraining westward
	   expansion of the Parthian empire (once Judea fell, Egypt, the
	   breadbasket of the empire, might be in danger).

70 AD --  The Temple was destroyed following a Jewish uprising, which was
	  set off by the Jews' refusal to include worship of the Roman
	  emperors as divinities at the Temple. Jerusalem was burned as well,
	  but not as completely as it would be in 135. 
	  Up until this time, the Romans had been
	  content to allow each subject peoples to follow their own religion
	  and have their own religious authorities, laws, cults, and rites.
	  Requiring acceptance of the emperor as a divinity was a major change
	  from this policy (sorry I forget which emperor did it), and caused
	  the first revolt against the Empire from within.  There was a mass
	  exile of Jews from Judea, the Arch of Titus (who was the conquering
	  general) was built in Rome to commemorate this, and includes on
	  it bas-relief depictions of the menorah (the 7-branched candelabra
	  of the Temple) and other booty and of Jews in chains being led off
	  into exile.  The arch can still be seen today in Rome.  
	  (As an aside, it is thought by some that the Vatican
	  has in its possesion some of the booty Titus brought back from
	  Jerusalem, including perhaps the candelabra.)  This happened in
	  the reign of Flavius Vespasianus.  Josephus' "History of the
	  Jews" is the most detailed (AND it's contemporary) account of
	  this period -- available at most better book stores in cheap
	  paperback.

The Courtyard Wall -- is all that remains above ground of the Second Temple.
	  There have been alot of archeological excavations in Jerusalem
	  in the past century, and continuing today, and structures, streets,
	  ruins, etc from the Second Temple period (although mostly from
	  later periods) have been uncovered.  Perhaps somebody who knows
	  could give you a list of what can be seen in Jerusalem that dates
	  back to before the Roman destruction in 70.  (If noone takes up
	  the challenge, maybe I'll do the research....later).
	   'Aeolia Capitalina',  coins were minted with the legend
                                                      

					Kathy

60.6DAIRY::KRAWIECKIWed Jan 22 1986 08:389
RE: -1

 Thank you Kathy.


                                      Andy