Conference taveng::bagels

I propose that the gutteral 'h' sound be written as 'hh' in this file.

ANy better suggestions ?

Mike

Humm... This sounds really familiar.  I got the same speech from my mother,
but as we all know; when a jewish boy gets married he divorces his mother.

On the other hand, I've also heard you can spend your whole life working
for a million dollars or...marry it in 5 minutes. :-)

When I was in high school, and my parents commented that it would have been
nice if I was dating Jewish boys, I told them that if we still lived in 
Brooklyn I probably would be.  There were about 5 Jewish kids in our school
system in New Jersey.  They agreed that they might have goofed somewhere in
our upbringing.

On the other hand, they were happy when I married a non-Jewish man, because
I loved him, and he was good to me, and all that.  They were also unhappy
when I told them we were getting divorced, even though I was seeing a
Jewish man then.  By the way, I should mention that neither myself nor either
of these 2 men are religious in any way.

Jill

    		Hello from sunny Israel.
    	I spent one year in SOUTH-AFRICA. I had a jewish friend with 3 girls.
     Every night before they went to bed he will take them to their
    room and ask 
    	" how can you give father a heart failure???"
    and then they will answer:
    " marry a gouy......"
    
    		ruven caspi

    ...amazing my father survived...

    
    
    
    
    	Oy voyashtmia.
   
    
    	I have#ralso dated many Gouyim, but think that I would
    	never marry any.  Not that I am predjudice, nay I'm not,
    	but that a women with the similiar backround we all share
    	is much nicer.  I find it a little uncomfortable when I am
    	talking to a Schikza and I mention something like " Oh,
    	I could go for some Derma" and she looks at me like
    	I am from New Jersey or something..
    
    
    Michael
    

    So, nu? How come my parents like my goyishe wife better than they
    like me?
    But, then again, I come from a long line of very Reform Jews on
    one side, while the other is right out of hte shtetle (I think Tevye
    is related). 
    
    For the guttural H - how about 'ch' like in Channukah
    
    Also, when did they put a U in goy??
    
    Back to the topic in hand-
    Since this area (NJ) is the land of the J.A.P. (you know who you
    are) and since everyone I dated (even seriously) could put down
    my family because we are NOT RICH JEWS, what else could a poor boy
    do?
    Shalom aleichem,
    Rich (Reuven Afroim) Horwitz
    (Originally from NEWARK!)
    

    Woah, since when is Newark, of all places, JAP city ?

		    A Lawn_Guy_Lander 

    Newark, my dear friend, was until ~1970, a city of very distinct
    ethnic neighborhoods. I grew up in the Weequahic (wee-kwake) section
    of town which happened to be 99 44/100% Jewish. Within two miles
    of my house, synagogues outnumbered churches by about 10 to 1. Even
    after the shools instituted open enrollment city-wide, my high school
    was virtually deserted on Jewish holidays. For a good, accurate
    depiction of what this area USED to be, I refer you to _Good-bye
    Columbus_ by Phillip Roth. (I don't know why the movie version took
    place in Westchester.) In the early sixties J.A.P.-ness exhibited
    itself by the question "Which side of the hill do you live on?"
    For some reason, the side facing the suburbs was thought to be much
    "classier" than the city-side.
    For further proof I could always introduce you to my sister.
    Please remember that I did refer to Newark in the past tense. The
    Jewish population of that city has experienced a Diaspora of its
    own.

	Ok, then we'll let my sister and yours fight
    it out to the death and then we will REALLY see.

    Baldwin, Long Island VS. Weequahic, Joisey

    It should be interesting.


	    8-}

    I am the gouy in this case, I am Catholic and my hubby is Jewish.
    I get along great with his family, him and his family get along
    great with mine.  We celebrate all the holidays...we support eachother
    at the holiday times.  These days there is nothing wrong with
    interfaith marrages, as long as you both love and understand each
    other :-)
    
    the gouy,
    
    Lynne 

    If you plan to have children, what will be their religious training?
    
    Av
    
    P.S. The author of 4.0 should have spelled it "GOY".  Maybe the
    moderator can fix it??
    
    

    My wife is Roman Catholic, I'm reform Jewish.
    
    As someone asked on .11, the real question is "what to do about the
    kids"... and we aren't entirely sure yet.
    
    My wife, Irene, is very strong in her own faith, but precisely as such:
    in _her_ own faith, not in "The Church", and as such was willing to
    agree (actually, she suggested it) to raise our children (about 7
    years forthcoming at this point) Jewish.
    
    We agreed that we wanted to give our children one religion coherently,
    so that they would not be confused by the differences in our religious
    styles and by the (mis)information that flows about the world about
    all religions. I also said that I was somewhat unwilling to raise a
    child Catholic because I disagreed with the political organization that
    is the Catholic Church, thus her suggestion that we raise the children
    Jewish.
    
    I also am very curious as to what decisions were made by people who
    intermarried, regarding the religion of the children.
                                                                    
    -Jay Vassos-Libove
     Detroit ACT/ULTRIX Resource Center
    
    

See the on going discussion in 1019.*

Gav

    Thanks, I found the 1019.* discussion :-)
    -Jay