Conference taveng::bagels

    
    	Further Policy:
    
    	o	All Hebrew/Other_Foreign_Language must
    		be translated to English.
    
    	o	No *'s in place of obvious vowels
    		for cursing.
    
    	o	No flaming mail to the Moderator lest the leave.
    
    	Michael 
    

    
    
    	There are now a number of keywords defined for this
    	conference.  If anyone thinks there should be others
    	let me know and I will put them in.
    
    	Michael
    
    	Do,   	SHOW KEYWORD
    
    	And then,  DIR/KEYWORD=keyword to find notes
    	containing the keyword specified.
    
    	

    Keyword creation is now UNrestricted.
    
    Feel free to add the ones you feel are useful
    
    

			Jewish Singles

	Rules:		You enter a reply to note 128.0
			containing the requisite information
			listed below.
	
			NAME:
			DEC LOCATION:
			PREFERRED AREA: (Or non-preferred area(s))
			AGE:
			PREFERRED AGE (GROUP):
			
			WHERE LIVE (OPTIONAL):

	Just fill in your NAME and please mention MALE or FEMALE
	if first name is androgenous.

	Where you work,  the area you will 'date' within
	(IE:  Will you drive from Boston to NYC ?). 

	Preferred age group if applicable (In the interest
	of saving hurt feelings, if you prefer someone older
	in age, or mind, then say so in your entry.

	For those of you who have entries in WHOAREYOU, then
	please list the number of your entry.  For those
	who are not aware of that file, hit PF7 or SELECT.

	Being aware that some would rather NOT divulge certain
	information (IE: House location) I will not require it.

	Please keep ALL correspondance by personal MAIL.  DO 
	NOT USE THIS NOTESFILE IN ANY WAY TO MAKE DATES OR
	ARRANGEMENTS THEREOF.  

	In addition, for those who wish to make an entry but
	are now just readers (for whatever reason) then you
	can send me your entry and I will give you a number and
	enter it into note 128 as a reply.  ANy correspondance I
	get will be forwarded to you.  This way, only 
	yourself and the person you are replying to will know
	who you are.  Free of charge.

	Perhaps one day, soon, I will automate this process into
	a sort of matching program based on heuristic rules.

	Best of Regards and Shaarei Shalom,

			Michael

	

	As a reminder,
	To see who a MODERATOR is on ANY conference,
	do SHO MOD            

	In addition, please SEND MAIL if you have
	a question regarding NOTES or FORMAT of BAGELS.

	Michael The Mod

    I would like, again, to remind everyone to please
    register in note 32 if you are contributing to this file.

    Of course, you don't have to, it is your choice, but
    it is nice to know the people we converse with since
    we can not see faces.

			    MadManMordechaiModeratorMaulerofMR2's

    I would like to remind everyone that if there
    is a question about Deletion and/or Moderation,
    the MAIL be used and to not insert replies
    in this conference.

			    Michael

    To ALL contributers and READERS of BAGELS:

    POLICY MODIFICATION:

		If I find an entry in BAGELS that I find offensive
    it will be deleted and the author notified.  No notification and
    no rewrites will be allowed.

    This file has been very friendly and open since it's inception
    (Amazingly so) and I would hate to make it MEMBERS ONLY or
    delete it.  SO let's keep our minds open.  This message goes
    not only to the regular contributors of this file but to
    the READERS too.

		    

    Please add TLE::EASYNET_CONFERENCES to your notebooks
    for general info regarding BAGELS and all other
    NOTESFILES.

    Hit KP7 or Select.

      -< Approved: PROPER USE OF DIGITAL COMPUTERS, SYSTEMS AND NETWORKS >-

		PERSONNEL Policies and Procedures	Section 6.54
							Date 17 Nov 86
 
PROPER USE OF DIGITAL COMPUTERS, SYSTEMS AND NETWORKS 
 
POLICY
 
Digital owns and operates computers, systems and networks in support
of Company business activities.  Systems should be used to enhance the
cost effectiveness and efficient running of the business, to assist
employees in being more effective in executing their duties and
responsibilities, to foster appropriate open and efficient
communications and to perpetuate the use of computers in day to day
activities.  The efficient operation of these vital resources is
critical to the success of the business.  Therefore, it is the
responsibility of all employees to insure that these resources are
being used properly. 
 
DEFINITION
 
For purposes of this policy, improper use includes, but is not limited
to, the use of Digital owned and/or operated computer systems and
networks for the purpose of gaining unauthorized access to internal or
external computer systems or accounts, for personal purposes that are
contrary to Company philosophy or policy, for purposes that interfere
with the Company's business activities, or for purposes of individual
financial gain.  Examples of misuse could be transmitting offensive,
harassing and/or devaluing statements, developing and transmitting
inappropriate graphics, transmitting sexual or ethnic slurs or jokes,
soliciting other employees, developing chain letters, communicating
matters of private conviction or philosophy, permitting unauthorized
access, etc. 
 
RESPONSIBILITIES
 
INFORMATION SYSTEM MANAGERS:  Information Systems Managers must ensure
that computers, systems and networks that they manage are clearly
operating in support of Company business activities.  This could be
accomplished by reviewing equipment usage and educating users, issuing
periodic systems management advisories.  Information Systems Managers
will also immediately investigate and report any incident of misuse by
an employee to the employee's manager. 
 
MANAGERS:  Managers should periodically remind employees about the
proper use of Company computer resources and with proper consideration
of employee privacy, monitor these resources to insure that they are
being used in accordance with this policy. Additionally, in cases
where there is suspicion of improper use, managers should discuss the
problem with the employee in question, and, if appropriate, involve
Security.  In cases where improper use has been clearly established,
the employee should be dealt with in accordance with the Corrective
Action and Disciplinary Policy (6.21). 
 
EMPLOYEES:  Employees are expected to use Company sponsored computer
resources in accordance with this policy and to support company
business activities.  In addition, employees should report all
potential misuse to the appropriate Information Systems Manager and/or
their supervisor. 
 
REFERENCES
 
Personnel Policies and Procedures Manual; Policy 6.03, Harassment 
Policy; Policy 6.06, Conflict of Interest Policy; 6.21, Corrective 
Action and Discipline; Policy 6.24, Employee Responsibility; Policy 
6.18, Employee Privacy.

    BAGELS can now be accessed by the new alias MARX::

    Please modify your notebook entries.

    BAGELS is now back.

    It has been gone because I keep corrupting the file
    because Fred keeps putting those silly Hebrew programs
    in that Software note.


    8-}

    Sticking my neck out is starting to become a hobby
    of mine, so why not extend it on the block a little
    more for various choppers delight!

    I've declared note #128 as the Singles note.

    For those who would like to remain anonymous,
    I will offer the same package deal that the 
    moderators of SINGLES have offered, namely,
    you send me the ad and I will enter it as a 
    reply to note #128 and you will have a number
    128.x to call your own.  Then people can send
    me mail with the number as subject.

    Enjoy.

    Would the woman who had me enter 128.15 please
    get in touch with me, I have a request for your
    name/number fom someone.

    If you are getting the error:

    Network Partner exited

    when opening BAGELS, it is because we are running the
    performance analyzer and we have disabled links to CHAPLN
    and ZEPPO and your notebook entry has one of those or
    has MARX::.

    MODIFY ENTRY BAGELS/FILE=CARLIN::BAGELS 

    will cure it.

Michael

    MARX:: is up to full speed again, you may now use
    MARX:: is you choose.

    The Commie Cluster thanxu.

    In the very neasr future, I will be changing
    careers, and will of course can not be sure to take
    this file with me.

    This is a general notice that I will only have
    about 2 weeks notice, maybe less before this file
    may have to be closed [temporarily of course].

    Michael

    
    	BAGELS.NOTE is being moved to node GUMMO::
    	to provide faster access for you, the members.
    
    	Please:
    
    	MODIFY ENTRY BAGELS/FILE=GUMMO::BAGELS
    
    Michael
    
    

    Donna Rosenthal has been added as Co-Moderator
    of this conference.

    I'm sure you'll all treat her with the respect
    and admiration worthy of this position.

    Michael

    As of today, i've accepted a new position
    and will therefore be changing address.

    This is a notification that BAGELS MAY or MAY NOT
    move, it depends how long it's allowed to stay
    here and if Donna also moves in the future.

    You've been notified.

    Michael

    
    
    
    	BAGELS will be without Lox
    	from 3:00 till Midnight today so that GUMMO
    	may be upgraded.
    
    	Shalom!
    
    

    After some off-line time, BAGELS IS BACK.

    I would like to thank Peter Conklin [System
    Manager of HUMAN, and all around good kosher egg]
    for allowing me to use HUMAN to host this file.

    Best Wishes!

    Shaarei Shalom.

    Not to be unexpected, this note concerns note #335 in this file.

    Feeling somewhat responsible [by my entering an unclear
    .1] i'd like to:

	    o	Make Ammends,
	    o	Mention some policy,
    and	    o	Get things rolling again.

		    Making Ammends
		---------------------

    If anyone is offended by the base note or replies to note #335
    please get in touch with me or the author of any reply you
    find offensive.  My thanks to those that have done so.

    In this file there will necessarily be many opinions from
    many points of view from EVERYONE reading and/or
    writing in this file.  You'll have that.  That's life.
    Such is life.  Life is life.  I'm me, you're you.

	    Policy
    ---------------------

    No personal attacks.  Say what you will but do not let loose
    on someone because of grammatical or spelling errors unless
    the error itself causes the message to be unclear as to
    the point of being offensive [like a wrong letter or missing
    preposition causing wrong meaning].

	    Back on Track
	--------------------

    Come on.  Let's lighten up a bit.  Reply .28 was an
    attempt at this, please follow suit.

    I'd like to take the time now also to tell you why
    I started BAGELS in the first place.  New to DEC, I 
    did not hear of any visible organization pertaining
    to Jews [like Campus Hillel or what have you] so I
    thought this file was needed.  I'm not religious
    in the least but will defend thouse who are and 
    am proud of my heritage.  It's difficult to seperate
    Judaism from Jewish History, maybe it's the same
    thing, so there are going to be differences of opinion
    regarding this as well.  I've been learning alot
    from BAGELS, which is why I started it in the first place.
    I'd like to continue to learn from you ALL and not
    have to sort through 'x is a jerk' statements.

    If you are being srcastic in attacks, use a 8-}
    If you are not, use another file.

    

    
    Dick "Gavriel" Scheoller has been added as a moderator
    of this conference.  Please join me in welcoming him
    to the BAGELS notesfile.

    Michael

    
    
    	This conference is the latest backup available.  Please,
    	if anyone has any extracts of items added after January 28th,
    	include them as new notes or as replies to existing topics.
    
    	At least we got something?
    
    

    
    
    	Please SET SEEN/BEFORE=01-MAR-1988
    
    

    
    
    	BAGELS is being moved.  The new location will be posted shortly.
    
    	Michael 	Moderator BAGELS
    
    

    Since moving BAGELS to my machine, there have been some some 
    problems with the system hardware which has taken a while to 
    get "fixed up".  This, along with systems tuning, has RAWFSH�
    running a bit quicker with higher reliability.  

    I'd like to ask that those of you with automatic NOTES UPDATE
    procedures in BATCH queues please adjust the time of submission
    so that the update is done before 9:30 AM or after 8:00 PM, with
    midnight [EST] being ideal.

    In addition, I'd also like to request that you follow a few
    guidelines to help system and network performance:

	o   Try to limit your DIR searches in NOTES to after hours;
	    Check NOTE #280 for recent directory listings before
	    executing searches on the file.

	o   When you are finished with a link, please relinquish
	    it by EXIT-ing when you are done reading BAGELS or 
	    won't be reading or writing for a while longer.

	o   If you notice any network or system performance degredation
	    over the course of BAGELS readings, please let me know;


    For my own interest and morbid curiousity, I'd like to hear if
    there's a notable difference in BAGELS access time between HUMAN
    [where BAGELS USED to be] and RAWFSH [where "we be now"].

    All the best over Pesach,

    Michael


    �	RAWFSH is a MicroVAX II/GPX used for Workstation Security
	and SECURPACK development and is frequently brought off-line
	for short periods of time.  If you get REMOTE NOTE CURRENTLY
	UNREACHABLE, please try again in 15 minutes.  If that message
	is persistant, send me mail or call me at DTN 273-3106 and
	I'll have the network checked over.

    
    
    	BAGELS will not be available TONITE starting at 5:10...
    
    

    
    
    	BAGELS will be down shortly briefly.
    
    

    Shalom

    The Mill will be without power this weekend.  Therefore @4:30 PM I will
    be shutting down IAGO.  The recent disruption was caused by my pausing
    to back it up.  It will come back up as early as possible on Tuesday.
    (Monday is a Mass. holiday).

    Gavriel

Shalom,

IAGO is experience vision problems (video controller is flakey).  Therefore,
I will be taking BAGELS down at 11:00 for backup.  I will then bring it
up until field service comes to fix IAGO.  I will be accepting taking
mail at GVRIEL::SCHOELLER for the duration of the problems.

Gavriel

    Shalom Y'all,

    IAGO is going to VMS V5.0 SDC.  Therefore it will be up and down
    today.  The conference will be backed up and set nowrite during
    this period.

    Gavriel

    Shalom Y'all,

    IAGO is going to DECwindows IFT2.  Therefore it will be up and down
    today.  The conference will be backed up and set nowrite during
    this period.

    Gavriel

    Shalom,

    I am off on vacation from tomorrow through Labor Day.  Martin Minow
    will be keeping an eye on things while I am gone.  I am going to
    bounce the net briefly to make a backup before I go.

    L'hit,
    Gavriel

Shalom y'all,

It seems people have been having problems deleting notes.  This is a bug
in the version of VAXnotes on IAGO.  I am going to bounce IAGO this afternoon
in order to install the FT version (overriding the IFT version).  This
release claims to have this bug fixed.

Gavriel

Shalom,

You should now be able to delete notes again.  I have tested it with
moderator turned off and it seems to work.

Gavriel

Shalom,

There have been notes from a few people that they have had difficulty
writing notes in BAGELS.  Is this still occuring?

Gavriel

Shalom,

BAGELS is on the move again.  IAGO is about to move from my office and
eventually from my control.  Tuesday 20-DEC-1988 ~17:00 EST BAGELS will
move onto my other VSII/GPX.  The new address will be GVRIEL::BAGELS.

L'hit,
Gavriel

Shalom Chaverim,

GVRIEL::NOTES$LIBRARY:BAGELS.NOTE has had some file corruption for some time.
I have finally found someone to help me fix it.  Therefore, at 1PM EST today
I will set BAGELS nowrite and make a copy of it to send out for repairs.
When it is fixed (or the attempt) abandoned, I will turn write back on
(no later than Thursday morning).

Gavriel

Shalom,

BAGELS is writable again.  Thanks to Rick Murphy, BAGELS.NOTE is ~30% smaller
than it was and supports V2.0 operations.  For those of you running V2.0,
that means that MOD NOTE nn.mm/NOTE=xx.yy will now work.  Happy noting.

L'hit,
Gavriel

Shalom,

GVRIEL and its owner (that's me  8^{) are moving to PKO3-1 tomorrow.  This
afternoon I will be shutting down briefly to backup my disks.  When GVRIEL
comes back up, BAGELS will be set nowrite.  Sometime tomorrow our system
manglers will shut the GVRIEL down to move it.  BAGELS should be available
and writeable on Monday 10-APR-1989.

For those of you with lazy system management, the node number of GVRIEL will
be changing.  So, make sure your net database is updated.

For those of you using DNS to point at BAGELS, the access point remains the
same.

L'hit,
Gavriel

    
    One of the contributors recently received an unsigned (paper) memo
    telling him/her not to participate in Bagels.

    This is contrary to DIGITAL's US Policies and Procedures 6.54, which
    requires all non-work-related notes conferences to permit access to
    all DIGITAL employees.
                             
    If you believe that any posting in Bagels is inappropriate, you should
    contact the author directly and openly, or contact the Bagels moderators.
    The moderators will respect your anonymity, should you so desire. 

    No employee should have to accept anonymous threats under any
    circumstances. The Moderators will support any employee who chooses to
    involve Personnel if this should occur again.

    All participants are expected to read and follow Digital's Personnel
    policies, especially US P&P 6.03 (Harassment), US P&P 6.54 (Proper Use
    of Computers, Systems, and Networks), and US P&P 6.24 (Employee
    Conduct).  These policies are available from your supervisor, and from
    VTX. If you are not a US employee, similar policies should be available,
    perhaps under different reference numbers.

    The purpose of Bagels is to discuss Jewish and Israeli issues.  All
    DIGITAL employees are welcome to participate.

Martin Minow
co-moderator, Bagels.

GVRIEL had a disk space crisis last night.  It should be OK now.  I have
deleted all of the notes that got stuck in limbo.

Shabbat Shalom,
Gavriel

Shalom,

As you might be able to tell by my new address, I am no longer at PKO.
Unfortunately, BAGELS still is but can not remain there for too long.  It is
possible that I will get enough disk space in the future to support BAGELS but
will be on a hidden node.  So, we are looking for a new home.  BAGELS is in V2.0
format and will REQUIRE a node running VAXNOTES V2.0 or later.  It would also be
preferable that the node have DNS running so that we can maintain a DNS access
point.  It will also be appropriate that someone with system privileges on the
new site take on some MODERATOR functions and ensure sufficient BACKUP coverage
and other systemy things.

If anyone has a node meeting the these criteria please send mail to Martin
BOLT::MINOW and myself {4GL,KOBAL}::SCHOELLER.

Todah rabah,
Gavriel

Shalom,

So far the only offer is from Alan Goldman in TAVland.  I don't know yet
which node or exactly when the move will take place.  I will try to keep
you posted at least 24 hours in advance (more if possible) of the move.

Gavriel

Here we go!!!

BAGELS will be set nowrite as of shortly after I finish writing this note.
It will still be available (read only) until tomorrow.  Over the weekend
it will be copied to TAVENG.  See you in Israel  8^{).

Gavriel

As soon as I attach from regular notes this will be readable.

Gav

   TAVENG goes down every Sunday at 7pm local time (that's 12 noon 
   US east coast) and returns around 2am the following morning.

   TAVENG will be down Monday Feb 5 from about 5pm local time.
   It will be back sometime during the night.

   There are currently difficulties with communications between 
   Israel and the outside world.  This is due to a broken undersea 
   communications cable.  Traffic has been rerouted but connections
   are slow and of poor quality.  Network response will be abysmal 
   until the cable gets repaired, "real soon now".

Offensive and/or inflammatory messages have never been appropriate for
posting on Bagels.  The attached message clarifies this with regard
to the current Gulf crisis.

Martin Minow
co-moderator, Bagels.
    
From:	NAME: PETER WOODHOUSE @RES          
	FUNC: UK HUMAN RESOURCES              
	TEL: 830-3897  <WOODHOUSEP AT A1_CHEFS AT SUBURB AT REO>
Date:	16-Jan-1991
Posted-date: 16-Jan-1991
Precedence: 1
Subject: GULF CRISIS COMMUNICATION
To:	See Below

Please see the attached message which was received from Security.  
I would appreciate it if you could pass it on accordingly.

Regards,

Sue.

----

The current crisis in the Gulf is very sensitive and many people may 
have strong feelings concerning the situation.

We would like to remind people that DIGITAL is a multinational company 
with employees from many different backgrounds.  It is our policy that 
statements via notesfiles, electronic mails or any other business 
related media should not be made which might offend or be inflammatory 
to other employees.

Corporate Personnel Policy 6.54 (4-Sep-1989) on Proper Use of Digital
Computers, Systems and Networks states:

"In addition, these conferences may not be used to promote behaviour 
which is contrary to the Company's values or policy (i.e. they may not 
promote discrimination, disrespect for the individual, violence, 
etc.)."

Also,

"Messages mailed or posted over the Digital network are the 
responsibility of the original author."

During this crisis, please be sensitive to the views and beliefs of 
other people.  Thank you for your understanding and support.

Best Regards,

George Brothers
European Security Manager

Kent Anderson
European Security Support Manager

To Distribution List:

I seem to be having problems posting large notes in this conferences.  Every
time I attempt it, I get disconnected.  If other people are having similar
problems, send me mail at KOBAL::SCHOELLER.

Gav