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Conference tallis::celt

Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

1623.0. "A champion from County Cork" by MKTCRV::KMANNERINGS () Tue Jan 28 1997 06:57

    Imperial Call, the best horse to come out of Ireland since Arkle, was
    an amazing 4/1 for a repeat Cheltenham win with joe corral on Saturday. 
    He runs at Leopardstown on Sunday next and will be 6/4 for Cheltenham 
    next week. So raid your piggy banks now and find a corral's shop.
    
    The great fergie Sutherland says the horse is "pinging". He means the
    fences, not the network :-)
    
    ..Kevin..
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1623.1domw to 11/4MKTCRV::KMANNERINGSWed Jan 29 1997 06:128
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH.
    
    On 2FM sport this morning, they report that some punter has had 4K on
    and he is now 11/4. Was that you Mick?
    
    I'm off to the bank this pm
    
    ..Kevin..
1623.2IRNBRU::HOWARDShower me with sugar lumpsMon Feb 03 1997 03:4810
    Well Kevin?...are you still as confident after yesterday?...
    
    In case you haven't heard, Ireland's horse, Danoli produced the race of
    his life to beat 2 of his main rivals for the Cheltenham Gold Cup.... I
    can't remember hearing a louder cheer for a horse winning....
    
    Will Ted Walsh get into trouble for his post-race comments on live
    TV?...
    
    Ray....
1623.3Fair play to Danoli, a great horse!MKTCRV::KMANNERINGSMon Feb 03 1997 04:2039
    Didn't hear Ted Walsh.
    
    Yes I'm still quite confident, although you have to hand it to Danoli,
    it was a great performance, and I was delighted for him. 
    
    However, I didn't fancy Danoli, as like many great hurdlers who go
    chasing, he has a habit of hurdling his fences, and fell in his two
    previous runs. He was quite lucky to get round yesterday, taking big
    chances at two fences, and Cheltenham will be longer and harder than
    Leopardstown. Also there is the fact that Danoli broke a leg at
    Liverpool. He kept running to win that day and has made a remarkable
    recovery, but I heard Tom Foley his trainer saying this morning that 
    the reason he is going for the Gold Cup this year as he is afraid the
    leg will not stand training much longer, and he will retire the horse
    if he starts to get pain in it. That makes sense to me as I felt the
    horse was being asked to do too much too quickly. I would not have big
    money on him for Cheltenham, even if Imperial Call was not running. 
    
    Imperial Call, it turned out, needed the race, and although passing
    Danoli at the second last it was clear that he was blowing and that
    Conor O'Dwyer chose not to make a race of it, leaving it to another
    day. It would be good if he got another run before Cheltenham, but
    Fergie Sutherland is a master, and he is training him for one day. 
    
    We have had a very dry winter and the going is fast. If the rains come
    and we have the usual mud a Cheletenham, you will see a different
    story, and I may have another bet :-) Nor do I regret taking the odds
    last week. Jodami has broken down and will be retired.
    If Danoli had dumped Tom Treacy again, Imperial Call could have won by
    a street and would be hot favorite today.
    
    BTW, I found out that Poteen is not my Sadler's Wells, (misprint in the
    Sporting Life :-() but by Irish River. This puts a differrent
    perspective on things, but he is still a very fine horse.
    
     
    Mayo are 12/1 for Sam, Offaly are 7/1 for Liam ....
    
    ..Kevin..
1623.4IRNBRU::HOWARDShower me with sugar lumpsMon Feb 03 1997 07:486
    Good old Ted Walsh, he got so excited after seeing Danoli win that he
    lost the run of himself on live TV, saying "this horse had every
    b@@@@@d in the country knocking him over the last year"....I fell about
    the room after hearing this....
    
    Ray....
1623.5Bet like men!MKTCRV::KMANNERINGSMon Feb 03 1997 09:3611
    Re Ted Walsh
    
    That's not too bad. He described the stewards at Galway as a crowd of
    eediots and wasters last year  and had to make a grovelling apology the
    next day. I think it was the Galway meeting. 
    
    Fergie S says Imperial Call will run at Clonmel and be "ripe as a
    cherry" for Cheltenham. Buy some 6/1 at Ladbrokes :-). "Yesterday's run
    will have bought him on three stone"
    
    ..Kevin..                                               
1623.6TALAMH::KEYESWaiting for an alibiMon Feb 03 1997 19:1811
    
    cleaning the poor bookies out are ye!...Still danoli with one leg would
    be safer than Offaly for liam...
    
    Does this call for a rethink on that Poteen fellow...i'm a dead man if
    that doesn't win something....half of Dublin will be in the mood for 
    a lynchn'...-)
    
    what odds on Tipp this year??
    
    
1623.7More that one Irish hope hereSIOG::BRENNAN_MDrink Canada dry-when do we startTue Feb 04 1997 06:0010
    Lads,
    
    remember there is another Irish horse to consider here. Dorans Pride.
    Won on Sunday also. I think I will reserve judgement on this one.
    
    Anyway rumour has it that Danoli, Dorans Pride and Imperial call are
    entered at Gowran Park in a few weeks time. If that happens I think I
    will take the day off and go visit.
    
    MBr 
1623.8Dorans is another hurdlerMKTCRV::KMANNERINGSTue Feb 04 1997 08:529
    Dorans Pride is another fine horse. He won a five horse  novices chase
    though, and that is not the same as a Gold Cup. Imperial Call will run
    in Gowran. Fergie S said he will be ripe as a cherry for Cheltenham
    after that. 
    
    Offaly bate the shite out of Tipp at football, and they are covered by
    the Russian ban, so I don't suppose anyone will be bettin on them.
    
    BIFFO
1623.9FOOTBALL!!!!TALAMH::KEYESWaiting for an alibiTue Feb 04 1997 09:479
    Football...whats that....
    
    Thats just for our amusemnet
    
    ..rgs
    
    mick
    
    ...whers my ACms mail? offaly man
1623.10fast groundMKTCRV::KMANNERINGSWed Mar 12 1997 04:016
    The ground is fast at Cheltenham, which doesn't suit at all at all,
    but I reckon Imperial Call can still win the Gold Cup, although the
    task is a lot more than last year. Last year's champion hurdle winner
    Collier Bay was pulled up yesterday. Not a good sign.
    
    ..Kevin..
1623.11oddsTALAMH::KEYESDigital Appliation Gen. DTN 827-2705Wed Mar 12 1997 10:044
    
    whats the odds on imperial call...Is that kilkenny hag danoli in the
    same race?..
    
1623.12Dublin Flyer, One Man, Grey Monk coombe hillMKTCRV::KMANNERINGSWed Mar 12 1997 10:4214
    imperial call is 9-2 5/1 with Ladbrokes.
    
    danoli is about 7/1 I think.
    
    Rake of good horses in race compared to last year, some of whom may go
    well on the fast ground. Still think imperial call will win, but he is
    not the blue chip investment he was last year. I hope Danoli gets round
    ok, but the bigger fences and the fast ground will test his jumping to
    the limit. This is the driest year for ages, they had water shortages
    in December ! Predict Dorans Pride a non-runner, I wouldn't run him if
    it were my shout. It will be a great race. Imperial Call will have to
    jump well too.
    
    ..Kevin..
1623.13Mr MulliganMKTCRV::KMANNERINGSThu Mar 13 1997 10:5514
    Mr Mulligan won the Gold Cup. Imperial call and Danoli pulled up.
    Danoli clouted some fences and Imperial Call could not handle the fast
    ground, which was a complete contrast to last years mud. All last
    years champions were beaten badly this year, two pulling up. Dorans
    Pride ran a great race to be 3rd, and if the ground  is heavy next
    year, it will be another great contest. I have given them back most of
    what I collected on the Meath-Mayo draw.
    
    Mr Mulligan fell with my money on him on monday, the goat!
    
    Poteen will have to do the business or Keyes will be after me with a
    hurling stick :-)
    
    ..Kevin..
1623.14lord have mercyTALAMH::KEYESDigital Appliation Gen. DTN 827-2705Thu Mar 13 1997 11:2812
    
    Oh christ!...Phone off the hook..hide...
    
    All those folks I told  "I know a guy who has a great eye
    for a winner..he says go for Imperial call"...
    
    offaly men not safe within the pale..
    
    Hows that great cloughjordan man Charlie swan doing overall