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Title:	Celt Notefile

Moderator:	TALLIS::DARCY

Created:	Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:	Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
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1603.0. "More British Justice!" by GYRO::HOLOHAN () Tue Aug 20 1996 13:26

                                 [Sinn Fein]

                               13 August 1996

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                  Adams expresses outrage at Nelson release

     Sinn F�in President Gerry Adams last night expressed ``outrage at
     the secretive release of British Agent, Brian Nelson.

     Mr. Adams said:

     ``Once again, as in the cases of Private Ian Thain and Private Lee
     Clegg, the British government has demonstrated that it has one law
     for British soldiers and agents and another for Irish political
     prisoners.

     ``This decision will outrage the families of scores of victims of
     the loyalist death-squads, who died as a result of Nelson's
     actions.

     ``The secretive release of Brian Nelson, before he had served even
     half his sentence, is as much part of the dirty war that Britain
     has fought in Ireland over 25 years, as was Nelson's role as a
     British agent involved in collusion and the murder of catholics.

     ``Brian Nelson's release does not close the door on collusion
     between loyalist paramilitaries and the British. On the contary, I
     am confident that it will ensure that this issue will return to
     haunt the British government.''

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1603.1		MOVIES::POTTER	http://www.vmse.edo.dec.com/~potter/	`Wed Aug 21 1996 05:09`	14
	Mark, For once you and I are in agreement - criminals in Britain tend to get out far too soon into their sentence. However, since I think that the article you are quoting implies preferential treatment to this particular person, please tell me the percentage of all criminals who serve a custodial sentence in the UK and are released "less than half way through the sentence" Just to prove you know the background to what you're talking about, of course. regards, //alan
1603.2	here we go again!!	CHEFS::MCGETTRICKS		`Wed Aug 21 1996 11:08`	4
	"We'll all be ruined said Holohan before the year is out"! Sean
1603.3		WOTVAX::DODD		`Thu Aug 22 1996 08:47`	13
	The report in here of Nelson's conviction is dated March 1992. He was given a 10 year sentence, and the report states that with full remission this would equate to 5 years. March 1997. Now two other factors may apply, neither of which I know. Firstly time served on remand is often taken in to account, I believe Nelson was in prison for some two years before conviction, and secondly prisoners are often allowed out of prison as part of their release process. Either way, would Adams have been happier if the Government had not been secretive? Would it have been better to have made a big song and dance about it? I don't think so. It does look like trouble making. Andrew
1603.4	The Home Office Cook Book	METSYS::BENNETT	Straight no chaser..	`Thu Aug 22 1996 12:10`	20
	Re: .3 Andrew, as far as I remember, when Private Lee Clegg was released early, despite the failure of his appeal, the reason given was that "he was no longer considered to be a danger to the community". Here in England, recent newspaper reports contrasted his release with the continuing imprisonment of two convicted IRA terrorists who, despite having served their _full_ sentences (20 years approx.) have been denied all referrals to some kind of release committee (possibly the parole board) by our law abiding Home Secretary, The Rt. Hon. Michael Howard, QC and MP. Of course, internment is nothing new to both the Irish and UK Governments, but I wonder sometimes what, or whose kind of justice is being served here when the prisoners have served their time. John
1603.5	honestly	WOTVAX::NEARYM	wigan_lad	`Tue Aug 27 1996 10:18`	9
	Hi All, I'm not qualified to speak on the matter in hand, but the one thing I do know is that you will never get a fair justice system until you have honest people in charge, and as far as know there has probably never been an honest politition since time began, I think that some are just more honest than others. Mike.
1603.6		CHEFS::7A1_GRN	The Prodigal son returns	`Tue Oct 15 1996 13:24`	9