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1584.1 | East where ? | IAMOK::BARRY | | Wed Jun 12 1996 15:41 | 13 |
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Interesting.....
So SF gets all wrapped around the axle over East Timor, but can't
bring itself to condemn the senseless murder of a cop in their own
country.
Help me out with this one.....I'm really trying, but....
Mike (who had to look on a map to find East Timor)
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1584.2 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | Cyclops no more! | Thu Jun 13 1996 05:59 | 5 |
| Thanks for posting that, Shaun; much appreciated. It's interesting to
see double-standards at work, and is, IMO, an indication of the
enormous difficulties ahead, in trying to reach a compromise.
Laurie.
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1584.3 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | Cyclops no more! | Mon Jun 17 1996 12:22 | 1 |
| http://www.smart.net/~wcooke/sinnfein.html
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1584.4 | | BIS1::MENZIES | Resume the Ceasefire!!! | Mon Jun 17 1996 12:24 | 4 |
| Amazing URL there Laurie....I'm glad Sinn Fein have finaly decided to
adopt a more honest policy with regard to their activities.
Shaun.
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1584.5 | A wolf in Sheeps Clothing! | BIS1::MENZIES | Resume the Ceasefire!!! | Mon Jun 17 1996 13:13 | 54 |
| Monday, June 17, 1996
US administration may be losing patience with Gerry Adams
From Joe Carroll, in Washington
As the strongly worded condemnations of the Manchester
bombing by President Clinton and Senator Edward Kennedy
show the US administration's anger with the IRA, there are
signs that patience with Sinn Fin is also running out. The
administration may now "give up" on the Sinn Fin president,
Mr Gerry Adams, following the Manchester bombing, a
Newsweek article predicts in today's issue. "If Adams cannot
deliver the IRA, he is of little use to anyone," it says.
"True, the Americans were starting to get impatient with Adams
who kept telling them that re-instituting a ceasefire `takes time',
but they had never quite given up on him. They may now have
to," the article says.
The strong language in the statements of President Clinton and
Senator Kennedy singles out the "men of violence" and the
"terrorists" of the IRA for condemnation. Mr Clinton speaks of
this "cowardly act of terrorism" and the "viciousness" which
deserves universal condemnation.
Last week, during President Robinson's visit here, the emphasis
from President Clinton was on hopes for an IRA ceasefire
soon which would allow Sinn Fin into the talks. He
"congratulated" Mr Adams on the size of the Sinn Fin vote
and insisted it was "not a vote for violence".
While Irish-American politicians have been blaming Britain for
the hold-up in the talks, the belated endorsement of Mr George
Mitchell as chairman was seen as giving the IRA a positive
signal to go ahead with the ceasefire. The timing of the
Manchester bomb is now seen as incomprehensible.
Senator Kennedy's statement said pointedly that "the terrorists
do not have the support of friends of Ireland in the United
States. Whatever the goals of the IRA, they are gravely
mistaken to believe they can achieve them by killing police
officers and bombing shopping malls."
In an interview in Newsweek just before the bomb exploded in
Manchester, Mr Martin McGuinness of Sinn Fin refused to
speculate on a ceasefire but added: "Senator Mitchell's
presence makes a much more conducive atmosphere for
republicans to be associated with any process he is chairing".
(C) Copyright: The Irish Times
Contact: [email protected]
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1584.6 | | CHEFS::COOPERT1 | tell mum before you go somewhere | Wed Jun 19 1996 07:54 | 97 |
| UK News Electronic Telegraph Wednesday June 19 1996
By Toby Harnden in Belfast
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SINN FEIN was pushed further into the wilderness last night when the
Irish government delivered its strongest attack on the republicans
since the IRA ceasefire ended, expressing doubts that they were
"capable" of pursuing peaceful democratic politics.
The attack coincided with the return of troops to the streets of
Northern Ireland yesterday as security was stepped up after the
Manchester bombing.In London, Labour joined the Government in saying
that the Belfast talks could continue without Sinn Fein, with Tony
Blair emphasising that it should not expect any better treatment under
a Labour government.
Mr Blair said that Sinn Fein now faced a "moment of truth".
The Prime Minister, who is expected to talk by telephone today with the
Irish premier, John Bruton, said that he would not allow Sinn Fein to
derail a process which could continue regardless. "It is now up to them
to demonstrate their credibility."
A two-hour meeting of the Irish cabinet to discuss the response to the
Manchester bombing produced a marked hardening of its stance. Although
the cabinet decided to maintain its official contact with Sinn Fein, it
said that the question of future meetings would be "kept under review".
This would depend on Gerry Adams's response to two straightforward
questions about whether he had asked the IRA for a ceasefire and
whether Sinn Fein continued to support the terrorists' armed struggle.
The decision to maintain "limited official contact" with Sinn Fein was
seen as a victory for Dick Spring, the foreign ministe
The Dublin statement expressed "serious concern" that Sinn Fein had not
persuaded the IRA to restore its ceasefire. The "outrages" in
Manchester and Limerick, where an Irish detective was shot dead 12 days
ago "provide no grounds for confidence that Sinn Fein is capable of
pursuing normal democratic politics based on exclusively peaceful
methods".
The decision to maintain "limited official contact" with Sinn Fein was
seen as a victory for Dick Spring, the foreign minister. Mr Bruton is
thought to have urged a tougher line. Sources close to Mr Spring also
sought to distance him from the two questions.
Labour's response yesterday will have severely dented the view of some
of those close to Sinn Fein that the republicans have now abandoned any
hope of progress under the Tories and are waiting for a change of
government in London.
Mr Blair's comments were viewed as a calculated effort to dispel any
such hopes. Speaking during Prime Minister's question time, he told MPs
that Sinn Fein had reached a "moment of truth" as to whether it really
wished to engage in a genuine search for peace. If there was no new
ceasefire, the democratic political parties should move on without it.
Then, in a comment which will delight Unionist MPs, Mr Blair said that
the international community which had been quick to involve itself in
the problems of Northern Ireland should learn from the Manchester
bombing.
"The US and others abroad have perhaps been given a telling lesson in
the realities of the IRA," he said. Mr Blair asked Mr Major: "Isn't the
only course now open to Sinn Fein to ensure that the IRA ceases its
violence, or if it cannot or won't, then this process should proceed
with the democratic parties, an agreement should be reached and put to
a ballot of the people?
He pledged that the search for a political settlement in Northern
Ireland would continue with or without the republicans
"Doesn't the responsibility now lie squarely upon Sinn Fein if they are
to play any part at all in the future progress of peace?" Mr Major
condemned the Manchester bombing as a "callous and inhuman act".
He said: "The time has come for Sinn Fein to make up its mind. "Either
it is going to be a democratic organisation, taking part in democratic
politics, or it is going to stay side by side as the reverse coin of
the IRA, with intermingled membership, in which case it has no part in
democratic politics whatever."
He pledged that the search for a political settlement in Northern
Ireland would continue with or without the republicans. With his voice
rising in anger, Mr Major said that what was "so startling" was the
total indifference of the bombers to those they had injured and could
have killed.
He said that the victims were "people who had no connection whatsoever
with the disputes that are in Ireland or the disputes the IRA may have
with the British Government or others".
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1584.7 | One and the same... | BIS1::MENZIES | Resume the Ceasefire!!! | Fri Jun 21 1996 06:54 | 73 |
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FRONT PAGE - Friday, June 21, 1996
RUC warns of loyalist reaction if IRA hits North
(C) Irish Times
By Geraldine Kennedy, Dick Grogan and Paddy Smyth
The RUC Chief Constable, Sir Hugh Annesley, has predicted
immediate loyalist retaliation if there are any IRA attacks in the
North. His warning came as the Taoiseach and the British
Prime Minister prepared to meet today in Florence.
Mr Bruton again challenged Mr Gerry Adams, the Sinn Fein
president, to say that his party no longer supports the IRA's
use of violence. He indicated that Mr Adams's response in an
article in yesterday's to questions posed by the Government to
Sinn Fein was inadequate. In Florence, where the EU summit
starts today, the Tanaiste, Mr Spring, said last night that Sir
Hugh's prediction that loyalists would attack the Republic if the
IRA campaign resumed in the North was a "realistic security
assessment".
He said loyalists had behaved in a "stoic and responsible way
since their ceasefire in October 1994 despite provocation". He
hoped they would continue to show restraint and stay in the
talks. It was important they should not be provoked. He said
the multi-party talks would continue.
Referring to the Sinn Fein stance on the IRA's "armed
struggle", Mr Bruton said Mr Adams had stated he did not
advocate violence. The IRA itself did not advocate violence
either. It used it like any bully as long as it was not getting its
way. On whether Sinn Fein asked the IRA to restore the
ceasefire, Mr Bruton acknowledged that the Government knew
Sinn Fein had ongoing contact with the IRA. The two
organisations were associated and were in regular contact. The
Taoiseach said: "Now, I'm asking them, have they gone to the
IRA to ask for a ceasefire? And will they go to the IRA to ask
for a ceasefire? That question hasn't been answered."
Speaking in Belfast at the publication of the RUC annual report
for 1995, Sir Hugh Annesley said the current security situation
was "worrying and unsettled".
It was conceivable that there could be a short, sharp campaign
of violence across the North and affecting potentially the
Republic and Britain. If this happened, however, his view was
that it would be relatively short-lived. The Chief Constable said
he believed it would not take much at this point to push the
loyalist paramilitaries over the edge.
It was extremely difficult at the moment to read the mind of the
IRA, he said. He believed that at the top of the republican
movement, the IRA and Sinn Fein were "inextricably linked".
He said: "I believe Messrs Adams and McGuinness are very,
very influential people and I think they have a major say in the
conduct overall of the republican thrust."
He added: "There are people in Sinn Fein who devote
themselves purely to politics. But the control of the movement
at the top is closely linked. There are members of Provisional
Sinn Fein who are on the army council, and there are members
of the army council who are on the political talks level of Sinn
Fein."
Sinn Fein's national chairman, Mr Mitchel McLaughlin, said Sir
Hugh's claim lacked credibility.
(c) Irish Times
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1584.8 | | TERRI::SIMON | Semper in Excernere | Fri Jun 21 1996 07:59 | 1 |
| Sinn Fein and the IRA do not want peace, they want control.
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1584.9 | | CHEFS::COOPERT1 | tell mum before you go somewhere | Fri Jun 21 1996 08:04 | 4 |
| That just about sums it up Simon.
CHARLEY
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1584.10 | Yeah Right ! | TERRI::SIMON | Semper in Excernere | Thu Oct 03 1996 08:48 | 16 |
1584.11 | Bang Bang Bang --- "Stop armed police!" | TAGART::EDDIE | Easy doesn't do it | Fri Oct 04 1996 05:10 | 9 |
1584.12 | | CHEFS::UKARCHIVING | dickie. Marmite. Nein Danke | Fri Oct 04 1996 05:27 | 15 |
1584.13 | another martyr for old Ireland? | ESSC::KMANNERINGS | | Fri Oct 04 1996 09:04 | 11 |
1584.14 | | METSYS::THOMPSON | | Fri Oct 04 1996 09:17 | 15 |
1584.15 | worsening standards | TAGART::EDDIE | Easy doesn't do it | Fri Oct 04 1996 09:20 | 11 |
1584.16 | | METSYS::BENNETT | Straight no chaser.. | Fri Oct 04 1996 10:33 | 6
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