Conference tallis::celt

    Up the Dubs!!!!
    
    When we beat Meath to get out of Leinster AGAIN this year ye may as
    well just give the Sam to us and not bother with the semis' and final.
    
    The Jacks' are back....
    
    Ray....(played at Croke Park 4 times for my school and scored 2 goals
    against St.Annes of Bray in the Millar Shield final and still lost....)

    Offaly 1-10 Limerick 1-8
    
    There was a fella called Keyes playing for Limerick, who scored a point
    for them, otherwise it would have been worse..... 

Taken from a recent Electronic Irish Times:

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Hackett's bookmakers are quoting Dublin, Cork and Meath as
joint-favourites, at 11 to 2, to win the All-Ireland senior football
championship, with Kerry and Derry at 7 to 1. The odds on Clare
retaining their hurling title are 7 to 1.
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I don't think any of us need worry about the odds of either Limerick
*or* Offaly for the football, whatever about the Hurling ;-).

Re .1

Your fine talk about winning the Sam typifies the Jacks,
Ray: plenty of hype, but nothing to back it up with.

What sort of girly Englishmen are the Dubs that they
can't beat Meath (pop. 37)? Meath fielded a team of
crocks, including three one-horned cattle, two nanny-goats 
and Ois�n after he met St. Patrick, but it was apparently
better than any field the Jackeens could muster out of
their population of 20 million young Fianna warriors. 
What happened?

    We were hung over from celebrating Michelle's gold medals.. It's the
    only possible reason for the rednecks beating us....
    
    Ray....

    Its a Meath and Mayo Football final...
    
    Meath demolished Tyrone (in more ways than one) yesterday in Croke
    park...Tyrone were firm favourites. Meath didn't win many friends
    yesterday...Its not in the nature of GAA players to complain about 
    a physical game but walking on guys heads.. and elbows in the face
    seem to be Meaths foundation to winning this game...
    
    mick
    
    
    
    
    
    
     

    Violence on the pitch has been a growing problem for a number of 
    years. It has brought the game and its referees into disrepute.
    
    Is there any move afoot to clamp down on this kind of outrage? 
    
    Here in England, there have been several successful criminal prosecutions 
    for violence, assault and grevious bodily harm brought through the
    courts. While I'd hate to see this as the norm, it is at least some
    kind of sanction against the offenders.
    
    Anybody care to venture an opinion on this?
    
    John

        >Its not in the nature of GAA players to complain about
        >a physical game but walking on guys heads.. and elbows in the face
        >seem to be Meaths foundation to winning this game...
    
    
    Were you at the game Mick? I watched it on TV but it didn't seem that
    bad. Meath were away the better team, but I, ignorant as I am about GAA,
    predicted this Meath victory, which was well deserved in my book. They
    were all over Tyrone in the 2nd half. Roll on the Wexford Meath Double
    at 36/1.
    
    BIFFO 
         

    re .7
    
    >brought through the courts
    
    Having once tried to fight a parking ticket in Limerick Magistrates
    Court and suffering permanent psychlogical damage as a result, I don't
    see much room for hope in the legal system in these parts. Ever heard
    of the Beef Tribunal ? If we let the lawyers on the pitch we might as
    well just hand in our wallets and credit cards to the nearest
    solicitors.
    
    BIFFO

    Hmm.. I see what you mean. A real bunch of professional crooks as 
    opposed to the GAA amateur variety?
    
    It is a great pity to see this kind of thing tolerated with no more than
    a casual remark from the commentator (a bit of hargee-bargee) and a 
    wilful blind eye from the referee.
    
    BTW, We get the Gaelic Games here on C4, so I can usually stay informed.
    
    Thanks,
    
    John

    well I suppose it is a physical game and a certain amount of tension
    creeps in, but I didn't see any real thuggery and there were some
    bookings.  Keyes is an exaggerator in my book. Mixing it up with
    croquet in Cloughjordan or something. He should take up cricket...
    
    BIFFO

    
    
    I shouldn't be surprised I suppose..its typical of Offaly folk..I suppose 
    when your own team have half breeds like Troy,Regan and co. then ye would 
    feel akin to yer Meath mates.... Staging posts like Tullamore, Clara
    ,Birr were never places to look for civilisation...maybe study past
    ones..They would ate ye! Roll up your windows passing though it..
    
    
    John...I agree about the 'blind eye" attitude of the referee....and
    the comentators also...Though Pat Spillane did point out that a couple
    of players were close to getting the line.. O'Rourke hadn't
    much to say (though I suppose he couldn't ..been from Meath which is
    near Offaly so he is a savage and wouldn't know better.) . 
    
    rgs,
    
    Mick -)
    
    
     
    
                              

    
    Mick,
    
    Ah now be fair!!. Just because your Mother-in-law is from Meath is no
    reason to run down the whole county. 
    
    Anyway they were no that bad - by Meath standards. You are old enough
    to remember Pat Reynolds, Bertie Cunningham and the RED Collier. Now
    there was a bunch of real savages  -)
    
    MBr

Meath 3-15 Mayo 0-10.

I can't see Mayo winning Sam under any conditions.  I would,
of course, love to see them do it, but I think too much of
the football (and other things, some not too savoury) is in 
the Meath side.

                     James.

    What the blazes is going on in Dublin? I haven't been following the
    story. What was the original 'incident'??
    
    BIFFO

    
    Its pretty bizare ok..Sherlock claims that some Dublin county offical
    made some racist remarks to him..Also allegations of a spitting
    incident.
    
    The county mgt committee recommended that the dublin offical be
    suspended for a couple of months..but this was voted down by members at
    that meeting.
    
    Football is a thugs game.