Conference tallis::celt

	Well, if I were her, I'd take a week to cycle around the Dingle 
	Peninsula, Ring of Kerry, maybe West Cork.

	I'd then go up through Clare (Doolin etc) to Galway and out to 
	Connemara (another week).

	I'd then get a train to Dublin, as there are not too many spots 
	worth seeing on either the road from Galway or Limerick, to Dublin. 
	It just would not be worth the bother cycling, in my opinion.

	I'll try to check out a hostel for Limerick/Shannon for her first 
	night.

	Cheers,
	Michael.

I kind of second that.  I would hate to cut short time spent in Kerry  to bike
to Dublin.  I have a friend who has biked all over Ireland every summer for the
last 5 years.  She knows the hostels well.  I'll ask her for some recommondations.

Julia

Definitely worth spending all your daughter's time in West Cork/Kerry.
    Dublin will still be there the next time she visits.
    

Re -1

By implication you are saying Cork and Keery won't be.  What do you think will
happen to them then ;-)?

                         James.

>By implication you are saying Cork and Keery won't be.  What do you think will
>happen to them then ;-)?
    
    They'll all be speaking German there soon. ;v)
    
    I "third" the bike trip to Galway/Clare/Kerry/Cork. I would even
    suggest East Cork and Waterford for a pleasant bike trek. See the
    breadbasket of Ireland - beautiful farms.
    
    /G
    
    p.s. Just got back from Moscow and am happy to report I went to
    the "Irish Bar" at the Moscow Airport.  :v)

    
    no..no..no..I know last few are only joking...You got it all wrong
    
    ..She can look at pictures of Cork/kerry/galway anytime.The are all the
    same..even if you look at them upside down...Tell her to
    skip the west completley..Don't even get off the plane in
    Shannon...(pretend to fall asleep)..Go straight to Dublin..Alot of good
    Rock and blues festivals..Live Music most nights till late going on
    this Summer......you can even get a good view of the sea down around 
    Ringsend if you really feel the need
    
    rgs,
    mick
     
    
    
    
    
                                    
             
                                                   
    
    

Re -2

Isn't there at least two other Irish pubs in Moscow, at least
that was the case two years ago?  One of them is within a puck 
of a sliothar from the Kremlin (I suppose it would be a long
puck :).

                        James.

    Coo! There are rock and blues festivals in Dublin are there?
    What a great reason to cross the Atlantic - I expect Americans
    rarely get to hear much authentic rock and blues in America.
    

    
    re: -1
    
    I take it your a big fan of Dublin.......
    
    Everybody is different...I know a number of people who come to Dublin
    for the Music scene  (they appreciate that Music is generally different
    everywhere...)
    
    Mick
    
    
    

My daughter leaves tomorrow at 6PM US east coast time and arrives Shannon
about about 10:00 am on the 7th (flies to London, then to Shannon).  The
notes and mail messages have been helpful.  She has made some adjustments
to her itinerary based on the comments.  The most helpful information has
been the suggestions to combine modes of transportation e.g. bike plus
train.  This gives her more options than she originally thought she had.
So she is going to remain flexible and just go where she feels like
going.  keeping 3-5 days for Dublin.

She is going to start with the Dingle pennisula, and on to the Ring of
Kerry, and then make some decisions.

If you see a woman with red hair, tallish, with a great smile - that's
Denise;  stop and say hello.

    I remember a around 9 years ago when my future wife and I went on a
    camping trip to dingle.  We arrived at the camp site unpacked the tent and
    started to unfold it.  Then I said to her, "where are the poles". OOPs.
    I looked around for some small trees to hack down and there they were,
    gone.  So we quickly folded up our tent and slid back into the car.
    We initiated plan B and booked into a B&B.
    
    The second vivid memory that comes to mind of Dingle was driving around
    the hilly roads in my Kadett in constant drizzle.  We passed several 
    cyclist tredging along soaked to the skin.  I kept thinking "Oh the
    poor souls".
    
    I hope your daughter stays dry and doesn't mind the hills.
    
    PS.  Dingle has some great pubs and restaurants.
    
    Cheers,
    Paul  
     

    Well, she's back!  Everyone was so helpful I thought I would give a
    short
    update.
    
    She had an OUTSTANDING experience; the scenery was beautiful; the people 
    were wonderful, she had great discussions (is 'crack' the correct word?) 
    with many people; one proprietress (sp?) of a hostel sat with her for a 
    couple of hours and the two of them talked about current issue's facing 
    women in Ireland today.  Divorce is illegal in Ireland, but will change 
    soon?
    
    She biked from Shannon (her bike was delivered to Dirty Nellies - this
    ofcourse worries dad right away!) around the Dingle peninsula and then
    around the Ring of Kerry, on to Cork for two nights and then to Dublin
    for four nights.  Of the 20 days she was there the weather was bad on
    only two!  She said she had blue sky and perfect weather much of the
    time.  She took 2 rolls of film the first three days and 3 rolls the
    next14 days!
    
    One very good piece of advice from the notes was to use the public
    transportation in conjunction with biking.  She did this twice and it
    worked out well.
    
    Dublin reminded her of Boston and she was very comfortable finding her
    way around - she did heed the advice of not going out alone at night,
    spent two eventless evenings in the hostel; the next two nights she
    hooked up with some other travelers and did a literary pub hop, and was
    a guest at someone's house for a dinner the next night.
    
    Her biggest surprise was the number of foreigners that lived and worked
    in Ireland.
    
    She discovered black pudding and passed up the opportunity to sample;
    she never found out the ingredients of white pudding - can someone help.
    
    again thanks to everyone who contributed