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Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

1399.0. "Phones questions (US to Irl)" by CTHQ::COADY () Sun Jul 24 1994 13:49

I know this was discussed somewhere in this NoTesfile, but all the DIR's
I couldn't find it, that being usability of US phones in Ireland.

I was planning on buying a cordless phone (prob SONY or PANASONIC) for my
parents. I believe the technology is the same, as the RJ 11(?) jack, so the
only thing I would have to change is a power-supply; get a 220 one.

However my sister told me that an article in recent Irish paper said that
phones purchased in US do not work in Ireland.

Can anyone clarify this for me; I will be leaving in a few weeks and was
planning on purchasing the phone in the next few days. In particular has
anyone out there done this and all OK ?

gc
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1399.1No problems for standard phones...ADISSW::SMYTHMon Jul 25 1994 16:3831
    I used to work for another company based in Ireland and did some work
    on modems. The Irish TOUCH-TONE phone system is compatible with the US 
    system. You would be hard-pressed to find a phone on sale in the US
    that does not have touch-tone capability. The dialing tones etc are
    compatible. I personally have used an  answering  machine I bought in
    the US in Ireland with no problems (except  finding a suitable AC
    adapter). I have many friends who worked in that company (a large US
    Multi-National (is that oxymoronic?)) who brought phones and answering
    machines from the US and used them in Ireland with no known
    difficulties. This includes portable phones (radio based, NOT cellular). 
    
    You may be in contravention of local laws when connecting a US made
    phone to the Irish phone network. However from my work experience I can say
    that you will not damage any Irish phone equipment by connecting
    equipment that is approved for use in the USA. The European telecoms
    laws are merely a form of protectionism.(no smiley!).
    
    The US and Ireland also use similar cellular technology, however you
    will need to have a make of phone that is approved for use by Telecom
    Eireann as you must connect to their network. So this is a little more
    tricky to do.
    
    The Irish phone system is not the same as the UK system, so all the
    above does not apply to the UK or any other country in Europe. Telecom
    Eireann made a good decision when they began to move to touch-tone
    technology in the late 70's to go with US compatiblity in order to be
    able to buy from the more cost-effective US market, for phones and
    exchange equipment.
    
    
    Joe.
1399.2thanks.CTHQ::COADYMon Jul 25 1994 22:2111
    
    Thanks, that was indeed what I thought the situation was, but I needed
    to validated it.
    
    On the AC adapter; where did you find that as I am looking here in
    Boston for a 220- AC (14V ?) adapter; harder to find here.
    
    thanks.
    
    
    
1399.3Adapters can be a problem....ADISSW::SMYTHTue Jul 26 1994 09:4611
    Generally phone stuff works off 9Volts DC everywhere. 14V is unusual
    (at least to me). The problem I had was the answering machine I had
    needed 500mA at 9V. Most adapters only go up to 300mA. I ended up
    getting a portable computer AC adapter which worked great and was very
    robust. However I got it in for nothing as a cosmetic reject (badly
    tarnished casing, hermetically sealed) from where I worked. They can be
    quite expensive (up to IR40). If you only require 300mA any shop that
    sells Nintendo/GameBoys etc will have such an adapter. Don't pay more
    than IR10 for it!.
    
    Joe.
1399.4PSU Source?SIOG::CASSERLYEireannach is ea meWed Jul 27 1994 13:093
    Diagem is the name of a shop located in Capel Street,Dublin and they
    specialise in phones and all the paraphanalia (sp) that goes with them.
    
1399.5Phone Q's UK to IRLAYOV25::FSPAINI'm the King of Wishful ThinkingTue Nov 29 1994 10:547
    Do UK phones work in Ireland ?
    
    Do they require any modification (to phone plugs or settings etc.?)
    
    Thanks 
    
    F.
1399.6Plug and go !BELFST::MCCOMBI'm glad I live in Carrickfergus....Wed Nov 30 1994 04:424
    
    NO mods needed
    
    Gareth
1399.7AYOV25::FSPAINI'm the King of Wishful ThinkingWed Nov 30 1994 07:141
    thanks!
1399.8SUBURB::FRENCHSSemper in excernereWed Nov 30 1994 08:133
    re .6
    
    Which is more than can be said for this conference.  :-)
1399.9Confused? You will be!XSTACY::BDALTONWed Nov 30 1994 12:195
Feargal's question about UK phones in the US phone
topic just might have been misread by Gareth!

US phones work in Ireland with no mods (-:except up north:-).
UK phones don't (except up north).
1399.10AYOV25::FSPAINI'm the King of Wishful ThinkingFri Dec 02 1994 05:041
    tell me more ??
1399.11standards question ?CTHQ::COADYFri Dec 02 1994 08:257
    
    If I recall (previous notes) UK has a different standard wall-jack and
    and phone side conenction (non RJ-11 ?), for the connections.  The 
    physical phone unit will work, but its possible that you will have to 
    make a cable with both ends diff.
    
    just a guess
1399.12OOPPPSS!BELFST::MCCOMBI'm glad I live in Carrickfergus....Fri Dec 02 1994 12:048
    Apologies,
              as suggested earlier I misread US for UK,
    
    sorry for the slip
    
    Rgds
    
    Gareth