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Conference tallis::celt

Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

1301.0. "Irish Christmas Traditions" by NYOS01::WALKER () Sun Dec 19 1993 14:49

    My son, Todd, and his friend, Joe, (both age 11) need to give a 
    school presentation about Christmas traditions in Ireland.  We
    just looked through the whole Notesfile and got some ideas, but 
    any other information about traditions, memories, etc. would be
    very much welcomed.  
    
    What are the special foods, drinks, songs, gatherings, gifts, 
    and decorations that are Irish?  Do presents come from Santa, 
    St. Nick or Father Christmas?  When are they opened?
    
    Thanks and Merry Christmas.
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1301.1St. Stephen's Day MurderTOPDOC::AHERNDennis the MenaceMon Dec 20 1993 09:083
    Find a wee bird, bash its skull in and then go 'round the neighbors
    bragging about it.
    
1301.2and the lights from Xmas tree blew up the tellyPOLAR::RUSHTONտ�Mon Dec 20 1993 10:559
    <<                     -< St. Stephen's Day Murder >-

    <<Find a wee bird, bash its skull in and then go 'round the neighbors
    <<bragging about it.
    
    Ah yes!  The two sisters named Christmas, one named Dawn, the other
    Eve...and the ghost of the beast is still haunting the kitchen.
    
    Pat
1301.3A bit more?NYOS01::WALKERMon Dec 20 1993 12:256
    re .1 and .2
    
    What am I missing here?  I thought the Irish were supposed to be 
    garrulous and glib.  The above is too terse for me!
    
    Can someone elaborate?  
1301.4TOPDOC::AHERNDennis the MenaceMon Dec 20 1993 13:2110
    RE: .3  by NYOS01::WALKER 
    
    >What am I missing here?  I thought the Irish were supposed to be 
    >garrulous and glib.  The above is too terse for me!
    
    >Can someone elaborate?  
    
    The wren the wren the king of all birds
    St. Stephen's day was caught in the furze
    
1301.5Do you have trees...NYOS01::WALKERMon Dec 20 1993 16:151
    Is the furze a Christmas tree, perhaps?
1301.6The Christmas CandleMACNAS::KELLYMike Kelly, 822-4175Wed Dec 22 1993 06:4615
    
    One Irish tradition is the placing of a lighted candle
    in the window on Christmas Eve.  This is intended as a
    welcoming sign should Joseph and Mary pass by again...
    ...the youngest member of the household is supposed to
    light the candle....
    
    A more coherent exposition of the Wren Boy tradition would
    be helpful given the request in .0......what I've read in
    the last few replies hardly provides the info required.
    Someone with a rural background like Gerry Coady should
    be able to enlighten all of us... I think he was a "mummer"
    in his day!
    
    Mike.
1301.7DELNI::JHORGANCraicailte indiadh damhsaWed Dec 22 1993 16:5320
    These poor school kids.  They're probably on vacation now.
    
    		The Wren Boys or the Straw Boys.
    
    	The wren the wren, the king of all birds
    	St. Stephens day got caught in the furze
    	So up with the kettle and down with the pan
    	Give us a copper to bury the wren.
    
    The furze is some kind of a bush.  I believe the tradition is that on
    St. Stephens day, the local kids would hunt down a wren, kill it and
    then go from house to house looking for donations.  They would dress in
    crazy clothes and wear straw hats that they made from hay.  They would 
    have some musicians along, and perform some songs, dances, skits and
    generally have a grand old time.  The money they collected went
    towards a few pints at the end of the evening. 
    
    
    
    
1301.8CUPMK::AHERNDennis the MenaceWed Dec 22 1993 21:4211
    RE: .7  by DELNI::JHORGAN 
    
    >I believe the tradition is that on St. Stephens day, the local kids
    >would hunt down a wren, kill it and then go from house to house looking
    >for donations.  ...
    
    >The money they collected went towards a few pints at the end of the
    >evening. 
    
    The local kids having a few pints?
    
1301.9them were good daysEASE::KEYESTechnology Grp. 827-5556Thu Dec 23 1993 07:5724
    
    well we ever actually "kill" a wren...Maybe tear the head off a doll or
    something that one of the younger kids got....-) -). and stuff it to
    look like a bird.
    
    You would grade the neighbours by how much they gave you..if you got
    very little..well their cat would suffer for a Loooooonng time..They gave
    you a good amount..well you changed costume and came back a couple of
    hrs later..If you were lucky you hit a house where there wre alot of
    visitors home for christmas...If you were brave enough you hit the
    local pubs and sought out those that were most under the
    influence...big time!
    
    You had to have a young kid with you..prefereably about 4 years old.
    If things were going bad well you got the kid to cry abit during the
    song...(usually it was their doll you had tore the head of so "santa will 
    come back to fix it" or "santa won't come next year" was a good switch to 
    get tears flowing. Mighty craic
    
    Mick
    
    
    
    
1301.10retributionCUPMK::AHERNDennis the MenaceThu Dec 23 1993 09:403
    This whole rap got started 'cuz it was a wren what blew the whistle on
    St. Stephen's hideaway.
    
1301.11More verses...NYOS01::WALKERTue Dec 28 1993 11:223
    re .7
    
    Does someone have the whole poem?
1301.12POLAR::LARKINThu Jan 06 1994 13:0610
    The rest of the story......
    
    " I chased the wren from rock to rock,
      I chased him into a public shop,
      I dipped his head in a bottle of beer,
      and I wish you all a happy New Year."
    
    
    Gerry
    
1301.13ACTHUB::BURNSWed Jan 19 1994 15:2328
THE WREN SONG

The wren, the wren, the king of all birds
St. Stephen's Day was caught in the firs
Although he was little, his honor was great
Jump up me lads and give us a treat

We followed the wren three miles or more
Three miles of more, three miles or more
Through hedges and ditches and heaps of snow
At six o'clock in the morning

Rolley, Rolley, where is your nest?
It's in the bush that I love best
It's in the bush, the holly tree
Where all the boys do follow me

As I went out to hunt and all
I met a wren upon the wall
Up with me wattle and gave him a fall
And brought him here to show you all

I have a little box under me arm
A tuppence or penny will do it no harm
For we are the boys who came your way
To bring in the wren on St. Stephen's Day


1301.14Playing by ear?WREATH::AHERNDennis the MenaceWed Jan 19 1994 23:278
    RE: .13  by ACTHUB::BURNS 
    
>The wren, the wren, the king of all birds
>St. Stephen's Day was caught in the firs
                                     ^^^^
    
    I think that's furze, keVin, not firs.
    
1301.15keVin was adapting it to N.H.TALLIS::DARCYAlpha Migration ToolsWed Jan 19 1994 23:401
    Well there are no furze in live-free-or-die...
1301.16live-trees-and-fliesPOLAR::RUSHTONտ�Thu Jan 20 1994 17:491
    There are no furze, firs or furs in the granite state.
1301.17HILL16::BURNSANCL�RFri Jan 21 1994 09:1810
    
    I beg your pardon ..........
    
    
    Our State Motto happens to be "Live, Freeze, and Die"
    
    
    keVin