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Conference tallis::celt

Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

1277.0. "Gasometer?" by TALLIS::DARCY (Alpha Migration Tools) Tue Nov 02 1993 12:38

    Under the Environment section of the Irish Emigrant, Liam
    mentions the gasometer in Dublin.  What's the gasometer?
    I don't remember seeing it!  ;v)
    
    /G
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1277.1ACTGSF::BURNSANCL�RTue Nov 02 1993 13:148
    
    
    I think it's an instrument used to measure Wind.		:-)
    
    
    
    keVin
    
1277.2I met my love...ADISSW::SMYTHTue Nov 02 1993 17:2214
    The Gasometer was the tallest part of where they made coal gas in
    Dublin until they moved to natural gas. It has since been redundant and
    is now been demolished to make way for apartments, offices, shops etc.
    It's located on the southside of the Dublin Docks.
    
    Immortalised in the song Dirty Old Town (Pogues version probably best 
    known, written by somebody else whose name escapes me) 
     
    
    It was certainly a land-mark in Dublin, whether it was a pretty one or
    not is debatable. 
    
    
    Joe.
1277.3It is still thereSIOG::BRENNAN_Mfestina lenteWed Nov 03 1993 16:183
At least I think I saw it this morning.

MBr
1277.4keVin probably has one in his office...TALLIS::DARCYAlpha Migration ToolsWed Nov 03 1993 16:466
    Hi Joe,
    
    The tallest part of what?  Is it a building, or section of town,
    of some mechanical structure?
    
    /g
1277.5NOVA::EASTLANDThu Nov 04 1993 00:378
    
    Mmm, Gasometers are really gasholders, at least they are in England (I
    think including Warrington - wasn't a gasometer the target of a bungled
    IRA attack, one the town paid heavily for in the revenge bombing?).
    Sorry you don't know what they look like ,George. There are some shared
    experiences that somehow don't include Americans of Irish ancestry who
    haven't lived in the British/Irish isles.
    
1277.6It's a gas place !!!MACNAS::BDUNNEThu Nov 04 1993 06:2514
    
		The Gasometer is a large tank, somewhat like an 
	oil-storage tank. It is not used for gas anymore.
                                                  
		It has been used in recent years to provide a 
	cliff-like setting for the re-introduction of Peregrine
	falcons to Dublin. (I think part of the idea was to help
	control the pigeon population !) A pair, released in the 
	area, successfully bred there once, (or twice), in the 
	last couple of years. They are now to be evicted.


						Sl�inte,
							Brendan.
1277.7Falcons 0 :: Dublin Gas 1ADISSW::SMYTHThu Nov 04 1993 09:036
    The Falcons have been moved to another location, well at least their
    nest was moved. The Gasometer is a large (huge?) rusty gas tank. If any
    of you want to see it, it is in the background of one of the early U2
    videos. The one where they're standing on a barge in the Dublin
    Docklands. I think the song was Gloria if I remember correctly
     
1277.8TALLIS::DARCYAlpha Migration ToolsThu Nov 04 1993 09:341
    RE: .-1 That's the October album I think...
1277.9SIOG::DPER01::kerrMon Nov 08 1993 07:433
I just checked (looked out the window of park house) its still there.

rgds......Gerry
1277.10NOVA::EASTLANDMon Nov 08 1993 08:567
    
    I hate gasometers. There was one in sight of Camden rd primary school
    in Carshalton most of my 'formative' years. That and Rose hill council
    estate a mile or two down the road made for a pleasant rustic environment. 
    Not even a Flann O'Brien or Patrick Kavanagh could make a gasometer a
    wondrous thing. 
    
1277.11TOPDOC::AHERNDennis the MenaceMon Nov 08 1993 09:2711
    RE: .10  by NOVA::EASTLAND 
    
    >Not even a Flann O'Brien or Patrick Kavanagh could make a gasometer a
    >wondrous thing. 
    
    No, but Corita Kent could have.  
    
    But then, Laurie would be screaming he could see Gerry Adams profile.
    
    ;-)
    
1277.12BONKIN::BOYLETony. Melbourne, AustraliaMon Nov 08 1993 18:529
    Gasometers fill with gas then deflate like a large baloon when the gas
    is removed. The 'baloon' is contained within a large steel structure.
    When the gamometer is full you'll see it easily as it's usually a white
    or creamy colour. When it's empty only the steel shell remains (which
    you can see through), the 'baloon' lying at the base.
    
    This may account for the "Now you see it, now you don't" feeling.
    
    Tony.
1277.13GasometerYUPPY::MILLARBTue Nov 09 1993 10:4615
    Yep
    
    Your correct a Gasometer is a Large container used for the storage of
    Gas.  
    
    Unless you're name is Holohan in which case, a Gasometer is a
    legitimate and strategic military target usually located in a city
    that is as far away from the homes of the Brave Freedom Fighters as Mr
    Holohan lives.
    
    Regards
    
    Bruce
    	
    
1277.14NOVA::EASTLANDTue Nov 09 1993 11:216
    
    Gasometer was a target in Warrington wasn't it? The one where the IRA
    guy smirked in court when they mentioned he killed a cop. Isn't that
    why the freedom fighters targetted the litter bin military targets
    on the high street, as payback.
    
1277.15SUBURB::FRENCHSSemper in excernereTue Nov 09 1993 11:418
    I was told, by someone who worked for the Gas comapny, that the storage
    tanks are gas holders. Whareras a gasometer was the device in every
    house used for measuring the amount of gas that was used. The word
    breaks down into gas meter ie something that meters or measures gas.
    
    
    Simon
    
1277.16NOVA::EASTLANDTue Nov 09 1993 11:494
    
    That has always been true, but in common parlance of the locals, the 
    gasholders were always called gasometers. It's part of the vernacular.
    
1277.17VYGER::RENNISONMThis is the voice of the MysteronsTue Nov 09 1993 11:558
They've always been called Gasometers in Glasgow.  The big structures full 
of gas, that is - not the dials in each house.

BTW - Give the Warrington references a rest folks.  Horses for courses and 
all that.


Mark
1277.18TOPDOC::AHERNDennis the MenaceTue Nov 09 1993 12:028
    RE: .17  by VYGER::RENNISONM 
    
    >BTW - Give the Warrington references a rest folks.  Horses for courses
    >and all that.
    
    What does that mean, the "horses for courses" expression.  I'm not
    familiar with it.
    
1277.19VYGER::RENNISONMThis is the voice of the MysteronsWed Nov 10 1993 03:2318
Sorry Mr The Meance,

I'm really just asking folks to keep the discussion about the troubles to 
the topics set aside for it.  The idea of this conference is to celebrate 
Celtic culture etc and I don't think we need to let every topic degenerate 
into a slagging match about the troubles.

The actual phrase "Horses for Courses" is simply used to describe a desire 
for things to stay where they best belong.  I don't know enough about 
horse-racing to give you an accurate example.  I suppose you wouldn't race 
a good steeplechase horse on a flat course.

Does this make sense ?  Probably not.  Do you understand what I'm trying to 
say ?  I hope so.


Cheers,
Mark
1277.20VARESE::FRANZONIBlue like a BluesWed Nov 10 1993 03:309
>    I was told, by someone who worked for the Gas comapny, that the storage
>    tanks are gas holders. Whareras a gasometer was the device in every
gasometer are large gas containers, the 'meter' part of the name comes from
the fact that the container is not hooked to ground but just hold by the
external structure ... depending on the quantity of gas in it (and on the gas'
specific weight) it will float low or high in the structure indicating how
much gas there is in it...

mf
1277.21It's making the papers ...MACNAS::BDUNNEThu Nov 11 1993 08:1631
		There is an article about the gasometer in today's Irish 
	Times, (11 November, 1993). The gasometer is being dismantled to 
	make way for apartments and offices. There is a photograph of one 
	of the workmen on top of the lift shaft.

		Extracts therefrom ......


			Built in 1934, 
			22-sided, 
			270 feet high, 
			140 feet wide (!), (diameter, I presume),
			held three million cubic feet of gas.
			Pressure exerted by a piston.

			In the 1960's, 750 people employed by the 
			  gas company, extracting gas from coal, 
			  (the article actually says 'extracting
			  coal from gas'), on site and distributing 
			  it to 120,000 consumers.

			The ground on site is contaminated with mineral 
			  and chemical deposits. Most of the tar was 
			  apparently stored in 20 tanks on the site - 
			  most of this has been shipped to Manchester 
			  for treatment. Polluted water is also being 
			  treated.

					Sl�inte,
					    Brendan - in GAO until 17 Dec.
1277.22NOVA::EASTLANDThu Nov 11 1993 09:464
    
    Piston huh? Good name for a dirty great circle of rusting steel.
    I wonder what new rings would cost.